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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sacrosanct" data-source="post: 6984235" data-attributes="member: 15700">Rather than do another wall of text reply that most people probably won't even read, I'm just gonna reply to a couple things that really stood out.First is this, and it illustrates a problem (along with your earlier comment about implying I said you were a bad roleplayer earlier).  If someone ignores the role-playing part (flavor, how would a monster act and behave, etc), and instead places the monsters down on the battlemap and literally treats them like game pieces, then they are in fact playing a board game.  You cannot play a role playing game and ignore the role playing parts or else by definition it's not a roleplaying game.  It's no different than playing Wrath of Ashardalon or something.  However, that does not mean it's a pejorative label.  This is one of my biggest issues here.  You (and others) seem to think that any disagreement with you or your playstle is an insult to you and it's not.  By pointing out how if you ignore the role-playing you're left with something more like a boardgame is neither good nor bad, it just is, by the definition of what role playing games are.  If you want to play that way, knock yourself out but it's important to realize that that is not how the game is designed nor expected to be played.  I see your type of response I just quoted often, almost as much as people accusing others of badwrong fun.  I.e.  "I don't play the game as it was designed, but rather than me take ownership of that, I'm gonna say the game is broken and if you don't agree, then you're accusing me of badwrong fun and you're wrong for doing so!"If someone who likes to haul things buys a porche, and if they complain about how the porche does a bad job filling their needs, it's not me being the bad guy for pointing out how they are using a car not designed for what they want.And this type of response is why I say I am doubtful for believing you.  Why?  Because you know who they are.  We just had a thread by CaptZapp in the past week or so where a few people made these arguments.  I find the feigning ignorance to be disingenuous.  Almost as much as your earlier post when you asked where did the expectations of always winning encounters coming from and immediately posting about how Gygax said encounters should be balanced for PCs to win.  "I don't know where people got that idea from, now here's a quote of where people got that from."</blockquote>

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