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<blockquote data-quote="Sacrosanct" data-source="post: 6984857" data-attributes="member: 15700">If you go and buy a race car, and call yourself a race driver but never actually ever race the car, then no, it's not a pejorative for someone to say, &quot;No dude, you're not a race car driver.&nbsp; You're a race car owner.&quot;&nbsp; It's simply pointing out a fact.&nbsp; Added irony if you go around complaining about the car is broken and the engineers suck because you can't race it outside of a track.Comments like this are maddening to me, because it's you who is refusing to do something but demand everyone else cater to your exception and on top of that constantly complain about how the system is broken or the designers are bad.&nbsp; Take ownership man.&nbsp; There's nothing wrong with taking D&amp;D and playing it like a boardgame if that's what you want.&nbsp; But if you ignore the role playing aspects, then you are not playing a role playing game and stop accusing everyone else of insulting you for pointing that out.&nbsp; I'm not setting myself up as some sort of arbitrator, and that's a cop out by you.&nbsp; I'm saying that in order to play a role playing game, it requires role-playing.&nbsp; That's not me being an arbitrator, that's common sense by the definition of what role playing is.&nbsp; It's absolutely ludicrous for someone to sit there and they are a role-player but never engages in any actual role-playing.&nbsp; Just like it's ludicrous to say you're a race car driver but never actually race any cars.&nbsp; Do not demand that everyone else accept something that isn't true, and then insult them as bad people if they don't.The bottom line is D&amp;D is designed, and built with expectation that you as the DM will assume the role of the monsters/NPCs and play them like they were living beings and everything that goes along with that (motivations, reactions, out of combat behavior, etc).&nbsp; If you refuse to do that and instead play monsters/NPCs as pieces on a battlemap that can't do anything other than what's listed as a power in a statblock, then you're playing outside of that expectation and it's up to you to modify things to make them work.&nbsp; You're demanding the game shift to cater to your needs, and that's needless entitlement.&nbsp; D&amp;D has always been about allowing you the tools to modify to your playstyle because so many different playstyles exist.&nbsp; If everyone demanded that their style be represented in an official book, we'd end up with 1000 page books that most people wouldn't bother using most of the content in.&nbsp; That's horribly impractical.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Sacrosanct, post: 6984857, member: 15700"] If you go and buy a race car, and call yourself a race driver but never actually ever race the car, then no, it's not a pejorative for someone to say, "No dude, you're not a race car driver. You're a race car owner." It's simply pointing out a fact. Added irony if you go around complaining about the car is broken and the engineers suck because you can't race it outside of a track. Comments like this are maddening to me, because it's you who is refusing to do something but demand everyone else cater to your exception and on top of that constantly complain about how the system is broken or the designers are bad. Take ownership man. There's nothing wrong with taking D&D and playing it like a boardgame if that's what you want. But if you ignore the role playing aspects, then you are not playing a role playing game and stop accusing everyone else of insulting you for pointing that out. I'm not setting myself up as some sort of arbitrator, and that's a cop out by you. I'm saying that in order to play a role playing game, it requires role-playing. That's not me being an arbitrator, that's common sense by the definition of what role playing is. It's absolutely ludicrous for someone to sit there and they are a role-player but never engages in any actual role-playing. Just like it's ludicrous to say you're a race car driver but never actually race any cars. Do not demand that everyone else accept something that isn't true, and then insult them as bad people if they don't. The bottom line is D&D is designed, and built with expectation that you as the DM will assume the role of the monsters/NPCs and play them like they were living beings and everything that goes along with that (motivations, reactions, out of combat behavior, etc). If you refuse to do that and instead play monsters/NPCs as pieces on a battlemap that can't do anything other than what's listed as a power in a statblock, then you're playing outside of that expectation and it's up to you to modify things to make them work. You're demanding the game shift to cater to your needs, and that's needless entitlement. D&D has always been about allowing you the tools to modify to your playstyle because so many different playstyles exist. If everyone demanded that their style be represented in an official book, we'd end up with 1000 page books that most people wouldn't bother using most of the content in. That's horribly impractical. [/QUOTE]

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