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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 6986723" data-attributes="member: 996">Nod, I was going for an example of a semantic distinction.&nbsp; And each game could and did.&nbsp; It's not that scope-by-Tier wasn't enforced in later products, it's that it was never established as a hard-coded thing in the first place.&nbsp; Could be (and has been) seen as a flaw, even - talking the Tier talk, but not backing it up with mechanics. Same could be said of 5e Tiers.The difficulty I see with that way of looking at it is that the mechanics exist in the book, while the DM decides on the fiction he wants later.&nbsp; The DM can be selective with or change the mechanics, of course...5e has swarms, yes.&nbsp; The only one's I've used (I've yet to run 5e at what I'd consider a high level) have been swarms of tiny critters, but the mechanic is still there if one wants to use much larger swarms of larger individuals.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 6986723, member: 996"] Nod, I was going for an example of a semantic distinction. And each game could and did. It's not that scope-by-Tier wasn't enforced in later products, it's that it was never established as a hard-coded thing in the first place. Could be (and has been) seen as a flaw, even - talking the Tier talk, but not backing it up with mechanics. Same could be said of 5e Tiers. The difficulty I see with that way of looking at it is that the mechanics exist in the book, while the DM decides on the fiction he wants later. The DM can be selective with or change the mechanics, of course... 5e has swarms, yes. The only one's I've used (I've yet to run 5e at what I'd consider a high level) have been swarms of tiny critters, but the mechanic is still there if one wants to use much larger swarms of larger individuals. [/QUOTE]

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