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<blockquote data-quote="Imaro" data-source="post: 6987475" data-attributes="member: 48965">I'm curious... at what point do you think it's incumbent upon the players to either...a. Recognize a threat is too much for them... I mean it's a Demon Lord and they are first level is this really &quot;hidden&quot;?&nbsp; Also is choosing certain death affecting the fiction in a meaningful way?b. Do research and/or gather knowledge on their opponents.&nbsp; In the orc example, do they hear rumors around the feats of said orcs... do they scout out the band... have they seen the devastation they are capable of... heard of the opponents they have defeated?I'm asking because for me I like having hidden information in my games... as long as there is a way for the players through their characters actions to acquire it.&nbsp; I'm not a big fan of telling the players straight out that they can't beat something, try something, do something, etc. because my players have surprised me before in pulling things off.&nbsp; I also feel that hidden information (again when it is attainable) adds a level of verisimilitude to my campaigns and the investigation and discovery of it by my players helps to draw them into the world more.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Imaro, post: 6987475, member: 48965"] I'm curious... at what point do you think it's incumbent upon the players to either... a. Recognize a threat is too much for them... I mean it's a Demon Lord and they are first level is this really "hidden"? Also is choosing certain death affecting the fiction in a meaningful way? b. Do research and/or gather knowledge on their opponents. In the orc example, do they hear rumors around the feats of said orcs... do they scout out the band... have they seen the devastation they are capable of... heard of the opponents they have defeated? I'm asking because for me I like having hidden information in my games... as long as there is a way for the players through their characters actions to acquire it. I'm not a big fan of telling the players straight out that they can't beat something, try something, do something, etc. because my players have surprised me before in pulling things off. I also feel that hidden information (again when it is attainable) adds a level of verisimilitude to my campaigns and the investigation and discovery of it by my players helps to draw them into the world more. [/QUOTE]

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