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<blockquote data-quote="Obly99" data-source="post: 8646006" data-attributes="member: 7035194"><p>Surtur in Gods and Monsters unfinished has some info on Ymir:</p><p></p><p>Nemesis: Ymir (Surtur), Frey (Surtur’s Avatar)</p><p></p><p>RELATIONSHIPS (SURTUR)</p><p></p><p>Angels: Surtur has not forgotten the treachery of these feathered interlopers and dreams of their destruction.</p><p></p><p>Norse Pantheon: Surtur is the being fated to bring about the oblivion of the Norse Pantheon. As such they are not eager to have him released. In fact perhaps only the goddess Hel would welcome Surtur’s freedom. The rest, including even Loki, would most certainly conspire against him.</p><p></p><p>Ymir: Surtur’s frozen counterpart, is also perhaps his greatest foe. These two prometheans exist to plague the norse gods, each vying for the right to be the one to ultimately destroy it.</p><p></p><p>DEATH OF SURTUR</p><p>Aside from the purely physical ramifications of the death of Surtur (a massive fireball engulfing all those within a mile radius of his sundered manifestation), his demise would have notable planar consequences. Firstly, Muspelheim (the para elemental plane of lava) may start to burn and crumble away, in effect destroying itself within about 120 days. This will almost certainly see an exodus of its fleeing residents into not only nearby planes, but also into prime material worlds as they try to escape by any means necessary. Those immortals who rule from the elemental planes of earth and fire may see a waxing of their power as these fiery immigrants flock to their banner. Alternatively, if Surtur’s avatar has survived he may lead his forces against these neighbours in an attempt to carve out a new realm. Secondly, the norse pantheon will have seemingly escaped its demise. However, fate has a way of balancing itself, and before long a new destroyer (such as Ymir) may appear. If Surtur’s avatar survived his destruction, then it is likely the death of Surtur’s manifestation would not have that great an effect upon fire giant religion since his avatar already fulfils that role while Surtur remains imprisoned. Although this depends upon how long the manifestation is free to roam before it is laid low.</p><p></p><p>I have decided to consider Ymir as a counterpart but much more powerful than Surtur as the progenitor of the Nine Worlds in Norse mythology. Yggdrasil in my setting is the First One "life" (double Life Portfolio, present in Tiamat's profile on this forum). In my setting the demiurge is Groetus (<a href="https://pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Groetus" target="_blank">Groetus - PathfinderWiki</a>), the sundered mind of the Time Lord Azathoth (<a href="https://pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Azathoth" target="_blank">Azathoth - PathfinderWiki</a>).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Obly99, post: 8646006, member: 7035194"] Surtur in Gods and Monsters unfinished has some info on Ymir: Nemesis: Ymir (Surtur), Frey (Surtur’s Avatar) RELATIONSHIPS (SURTUR) Angels: Surtur has not forgotten the treachery of these feathered interlopers and dreams of their destruction. Norse Pantheon: Surtur is the being fated to bring about the oblivion of the Norse Pantheon. As such they are not eager to have him released. In fact perhaps only the goddess Hel would welcome Surtur’s freedom. The rest, including even Loki, would most certainly conspire against him. Ymir: Surtur’s frozen counterpart, is also perhaps his greatest foe. These two prometheans exist to plague the norse gods, each vying for the right to be the one to ultimately destroy it. DEATH OF SURTUR Aside from the purely physical ramifications of the death of Surtur (a massive fireball engulfing all those within a mile radius of his sundered manifestation), his demise would have notable planar consequences. Firstly, Muspelheim (the para elemental plane of lava) may start to burn and crumble away, in effect destroying itself within about 120 days. This will almost certainly see an exodus of its fleeing residents into not only nearby planes, but also into prime material worlds as they try to escape by any means necessary. Those immortals who rule from the elemental planes of earth and fire may see a waxing of their power as these fiery immigrants flock to their banner. Alternatively, if Surtur’s avatar has survived he may lead his forces against these neighbours in an attempt to carve out a new realm. Secondly, the norse pantheon will have seemingly escaped its demise. However, fate has a way of balancing itself, and before long a new destroyer (such as Ymir) may appear. If Surtur’s avatar survived his destruction, then it is likely the death of Surtur’s manifestation would not have that great an effect upon fire giant religion since his avatar already fulfils that role while Surtur remains imprisoned. Although this depends upon how long the manifestation is free to roam before it is laid low. I have decided to consider Ymir as a counterpart but much more powerful than Surtur as the progenitor of the Nine Worlds in Norse mythology. Yggdrasil in my setting is the First One "life" (double Life Portfolio, present in Tiamat's profile on this forum). In my setting the demiurge is Groetus ([URL="https://pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Groetus"]Groetus - PathfinderWiki[/URL]), the sundered mind of the Time Lord Azathoth ([URL="https://pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Azathoth"]Azathoth - PathfinderWiki[/URL]). [/QUOTE]
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