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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Badwe" data-source="post: 4708341" data-attributes="member: 61762">I've used dungeon tiles.  I've recreated other people's maps using a battlemat and a dry erase.  Dungeon Tiles just plain LOOK better and are COMPELLING, compared to lines as i end up taking a wide swath at someone's meticulously curlicued cave that is so much more creative than a set of tiles with the same curlicues already printed on them.  It's a false premise, the tiles do NOT restrict creativity any more than a battlemat does.  If you are some kind of encounter design GENIOUS who is somehow leveraging the granularity of being able to draw every individual corner and pillar to create unique LOS and cover situations... hats off to you because if you had my party 90% of those maps would be lost on them anyway.  If I use tiles, the vibrance immediately changes the energy of the table, and DD arranges them in clever ways that REALLY push that quality of them.A criticism is a criticism, like the 8th level elite vs 3rd level PCs.  Sometimes it just seems like people have a bone to pick with WotC and the way they do their business.  I'm just going to come out and say that I think the DD would have been a WORSE product if they didn't use dungeon tiles, so we can just agree to disagree and move on.</blockquote>