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<blockquote data-quote="Water Bob" data-source="post: 5546219" data-attributes="member: 92305">Threads always drift.&nbsp; I expect it.<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Well, that's my point.&nbsp; There are A LOT of rules in D&amp;D.&nbsp; I dunno about 4E, but I suspect all versions are rules heavy even though some may be lighter than others.&nbsp;&quot;Hey!&nbsp; What's the difference between the Bull's Charge and the Charge again?&quot;&nbsp;If you don't play with that often, you have to look it up.&nbsp;Which is why I find it hard to believe anybody can play D&amp;D without opening the books during a game session unless the DM has been playing a long time and has everything memorized.&nbsp;I know I used to have most of it memorized back in the day when I was playing 1E and 2E, but I'm out of practice now.&nbsp; And, 3E is, although we've been playing a while, still new to us (me and my group).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Water Bob, post: 5546219, member: 92305"] Threads always drift. I expect it.;) Well, that's my point. There are A LOT of rules in D&D. I dunno about 4E, but I suspect all versions are rules heavy even though some may be lighter than others. "Hey! What's the difference between the Bull's Charge and the Charge again?" If you don't play with that often, you have to look it up. Which is why I find it hard to believe anybody can play D&D without opening the books during a game session unless the DM has been playing a long time and has everything memorized. I know I used to have most of it memorized back in the day when I was playing 1E and 2E, but I'm out of practice now. And, 3E is, although we've been playing a while, still new to us (me and my group). [/QUOTE]

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