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<blockquote data-quote="Sunseeker" data-source="post: 6070019"><p>Even if the dichotomy is false, I still appreciate it. I've always pictured "divine magic" as somehow different from "arcane magic". IMO, with arcane magic, a learned fellow bends reality to their desires with raw power extracted...often forcibly, from said reality. Divine magic on the other hand is power that is <em>given</em> rather that <strong>taken</strong> and I've always felt that was an important distinction. Where a mage-type works hard to learn the key-phrases that unlock the ability to warp reality, to create from nothing, the cleric-type works hard to earn the favor of their deity to accomplish the same. While the latter still alters reality, it's sort of an "alteration with permission", whereas the mage-type is an "alteration without permission". The druid falls into the same zone as the cleric for this matter. With sorcerous-types who nave a natural affinity for the raw magical power of the universe it's a little of a blurry issue.</p><p></p><p>Contrary to Build91, I don't see this as a judeo-christian religion vs paganism deal. One can abuse holy power and one can be repsectful with arcane magic, it's simply the nature of the latter to not be something willingly given. The universe protects it's secrets.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sunseeker, post: 6070019"] Even if the dichotomy is false, I still appreciate it. I've always pictured "divine magic" as somehow different from "arcane magic". IMO, with arcane magic, a learned fellow bends reality to their desires with raw power extracted...often forcibly, from said reality. Divine magic on the other hand is power that is [I]given[/I] rather that [B]taken[/B] and I've always felt that was an important distinction. Where a mage-type works hard to learn the key-phrases that unlock the ability to warp reality, to create from nothing, the cleric-type works hard to earn the favor of their deity to accomplish the same. While the latter still alters reality, it's sort of an "alteration with permission", whereas the mage-type is an "alteration without permission". The druid falls into the same zone as the cleric for this matter. With sorcerous-types who nave a natural affinity for the raw magical power of the universe it's a little of a blurry issue. Contrary to Build91, I don't see this as a judeo-christian religion vs paganism deal. One can abuse holy power and one can be repsectful with arcane magic, it's simply the nature of the latter to not be something willingly given. The universe protects it's secrets. [/QUOTE]
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