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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Forsythe" data-source="post: 1001266" data-attributes="member: 9715">Re: Re: Things that stop invisibility..yes or no?1. Cast Bless, true strike, protection from evil?2. Cast summon natures ally, monster, or animate dead and direct them?3. Cast flaming sphere and direct it?4. Cast spiritial weapon and direct it?5. Cast spectral hand and deliver touch spells with it?6. Cast stone to mud on the ground?7. Cast wall of fire between you and foes?8. Cast a fireball?Ok...most interesting, I disagree with most of these, but it is why I asked.  1,2 - I agree do not cause visibility.3 -  I agree causes visibility4 - Ok...this one is confusing...if visible then cast...I agree...you become visibile...but...if cast and directed first and it continues attacking....then you stay invisible.5 - Spectral hand is a hard one...the hand is a summoned object with hitpoints, AC, etc...it delivers touch attack spells you cast...just like a familiar does..(and both can be killed just like any summoned creature)..so I think the caster stays invisible.6 - I disagree, even if the enemy is in the area I think the caster stays invisible.7 - Not an attack unless you attempt to hit the foe with the wall....caster stays invisible.8 - Agree...becomes visible if aimed at foeComments anyone?Forsythe</blockquote>