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<blockquote data-quote="Manbearcat" data-source="post: 6321203" data-attributes="member: 6696971">This is a fantasy game we're supposed to be playing with fantasy heroes who eclipse our real world model.&nbsp; As such, I would like to see fantasy Fighters capable of the kind of feats of athleticism, mental/physical fortitude, and imposition of will on others (due to their sheer presence or their legend) that we see in the real world.&nbsp; But this shouldn't be epic stuff.&nbsp; It should be lower tier stuff.&nbsp; Fantasy Fighters should be eclipsing their real world peers at higher levels.At lower/mid-tier play, they should be capable of:- Imposing their will on their peers, like Michael Jordan and Tiger Woods, such that they wilt or naturally subordinate.- Free-running and climbing like the freakish athletes and Olympic gymnasts of the world (check youtube for the guy that climbs like a monkey!).- Literally shrugging off wounds that would mentally or physically cripple lesser folks, as the elite soldiers of this world do.- Having the patience, skill, and strategic acumen to lay in the same position, unnoticed, in the bush for 3 straight days, observing the enemy, and reporting back with a perfect conception of what they saw and extrapolation of what it means (or what is to come).- The absurd proprioception, spatial awareness and coordination to pull off the kind of amazing feats in a tangled, melee milieu that hockey players, soccer players, and fighter pilots pull off.&nbsp; Lionel Messi should not be an aberration.&nbsp; He should be the standard for mid-level D&amp;D Fighters.- Inspiring their teammates and subordinates to be better than they can be by themselves, such that the whole becomes much greater.&nbsp; Like Messi or Jordan, Captain Winters of &quot;Easy&quot; Company, Erwin Rommel, Bernard Montgomery, George Patton, and Douglas MacArthur should be the normal deal for fantasy Fighters.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Manbearcat, post: 6321203, member: 6696971"] This is a fantasy game we're supposed to be playing with fantasy heroes who eclipse our real world model. As such, I would like to see fantasy Fighters capable of the kind of feats of athleticism, mental/physical fortitude, and imposition of will on others (due to their sheer presence or their legend) that we see in the real world. But this shouldn't be epic stuff. It should be lower tier stuff. Fantasy Fighters should be eclipsing their real world peers at higher levels. At lower/mid-tier play, they should be capable of: - Imposing their will on their peers, like Michael Jordan and Tiger Woods, such that they wilt or naturally subordinate. - Free-running and climbing like the freakish athletes and Olympic gymnasts of the world (check youtube for the guy that climbs like a monkey!). - Literally shrugging off wounds that would mentally or physically cripple lesser folks, as the elite soldiers of this world do. - Having the patience, skill, and strategic acumen to lay in the same position, unnoticed, in the bush for 3 straight days, observing the enemy, and reporting back with a perfect conception of what they saw and extrapolation of what it means (or what is to come). - The absurd proprioception, spatial awareness and coordination to pull off the kind of amazing feats in a tangled, melee milieu that hockey players, soccer players, and fighter pilots pull off. Lionel Messi should not be an aberration. He should be the standard for mid-level D&D Fighters. - Inspiring their teammates and subordinates to be better than they can be by themselves, such that the whole becomes much greater. Like Messi or Jordan, Captain Winters of "Easy" Company, Erwin Rommel, Bernard Montgomery, George Patton, and Douglas MacArthur should be the normal deal for fantasy Fighters. [/QUOTE]

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