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<blockquote data-quote="carborundum" data-source="post: 3762352" data-attributes="member: 49284">Wow - nice to wake up to so much advice, so many tips!I see what you mean about the chain being feat intensive (and I don't think it can be used as a double weapon without that Master of Chains PrC). It's hard to imagine he made it to 6 before taking EWF:Spiked Chain, though with strikes it's certainly doable. And getting Adaptive Style at 9 would have been like Christmas and all his birthdays at once, I reckon! He's 10 now though, and looking fine! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />With an initiative bonus of +7 it's a shame he can't take Combat Reflexes! On the other hand, I don't expect a horde of mooks very often. Maybe if the DM allows taking a flaw I could grab it.With a 2-H reach weapon he could keep power attack and also take Combat Reflexes. Alas, reach weapons seem to be in short supply - I think the spiked chain is the only one. If I go for two weapons instead, I imagine the whole thing would have to change - with more emphasis on Tiger Claw maneuvers, for example. (Bo9S is great bedtime reading).Do you guys maybe have another build lying around, with two weapons, heavy on the Shadow Hand and Tiger Claw? Seeing the builds is really helping me grasp the way it all fits together - there's a lot of synergy in the maneuvers and feat choices.(Sorry, I said synergy - and outside a meeting too!)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="carborundum, post: 3762352, member: 49284"] Wow - nice to wake up to so much advice, so many tips! I see what you mean about the chain being feat intensive (and I don't think it can be used as a double weapon without that Master of Chains PrC). It's hard to imagine he made it to 6 before taking EWF:Spiked Chain, though with strikes it's certainly doable. And getting Adaptive Style at 9 would have been like Christmas and all his birthdays at once, I reckon! He's 10 now though, and looking fine! :) With an initiative bonus of +7 it's a shame he can't take Combat Reflexes! On the other hand, I don't expect a horde of mooks very often. Maybe if the DM allows taking a flaw I could grab it. With a 2-H reach weapon he could keep power attack and also take Combat Reflexes. Alas, reach weapons seem to be in short supply - I think the spiked chain is the only one. If I go for two weapons instead, I imagine the whole thing would have to change - with more emphasis on Tiger Claw maneuvers, for example. (Bo9S is great bedtime reading). Do you guys maybe have another build lying around, with two weapons, heavy on the Shadow Hand and Tiger Claw? Seeing the builds is really helping me grasp the way it all fits together - there's a lot of synergy in the maneuvers and feat choices. (Sorry, I said synergy - and outside a meeting too!) [/QUOTE]

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