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<blockquote data-quote="HammerMan" data-source="post: 8559065" data-attributes="member: 84112">I didn't replace 1d10 with 1d8+stat mod, I replaced 2d10 with 1d8+ stat mod...2d10 min 2 max 20 average 111d8+4 min 5, max 12 average 8I then replaced 3d10 with 1d10+ stat mod3d10 min 3&nbsp; max 30 average 161d10+5 min 6 max 15 average 11I then replaced 4d10 with 2d8 + stat mod4d10 min 4 max 40 average 222d8+5 min 7&nbsp; max 21 average 14BUrning hands does 3d6 fire and magic missle does 3d4+3 auto hit force (I think we can all agree auto hit + less ressited type is better)3d6 min 3 max 18 avrg 10&nbsp; (or 1/9/5 with save)the only time my average damage in my version tops better then burining hands is when it hit and burining hands misses the save, at 17+ level... but even still the fire bolt can miss 0 damage, and burining hands is save for half so 1/9/5 fire damage on a 'miss'.edit: I am sure someone can make even better math... but its a darn good start for an off the cuff answer from a non game designer</blockquote>

[QUOTE="HammerMan, post: 8559065, member: 84112"] I didn't replace 1d10 with 1d8+stat mod, I replaced 2d10 with 1d8+ stat mod... 2d10 min 2 max 20 average 11 1d8+4 min 5, max 12 average 8 I then replaced 3d10 with 1d10+ stat mod 3d10 min 3 max 30 average 16 1d10+5 min 6 max 15 average 11 I then replaced 4d10 with 2d8 + stat mod 4d10 min 4 max 40 average 22 2d8+5 min 7 max 21 average 14 BUrning hands does 3d6 fire and magic missle does 3d4+3 auto hit force (I think we can all agree auto hit + less ressited type is better) 3d6 min 3 max 18 avrg 10 (or 1/9/5 with save) the only time my average damage in my version tops better then burining hands is when it hit and burining hands misses the save, at 17+ level... but even still the fire bolt can miss 0 damage, and burining hands is save for half so 1/9/5 fire damage on a 'miss'. edit: I am sure someone can make even better math... but its a darn good start for an off the cuff answer from a non game designer [/QUOTE]

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