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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 9006049" data-attributes="member: 82106">Well, I find it hard to believe they were aiming at any sort of 'combat balance'. If they were, it was EPIC FAIL, because I would say that 2e was about as close as TSR D&D ever got to any sort of balance. That is, if you were to take, say, 5th level, every 2e class could do something meaningful in a fight, at least potentially. In 3e fighters are basically literally worthless. I mean, better than nothing at all, but you gain something every time you sub in a cleric for sure! By 5th level it isn't even a contest, 3e fighter is just dead weight. So they failed miserably! Honestly, 3e seems like a game that was designed by some modestly experienced game designers who played some AD&D casually, but didn't really have a very good understanding of the mechanical aspects of the game. They rectified the obvious flaws in the hodge podge 'TSR Engine', and broke literally everything else, without really needing to.</blockquote>