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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ValhallaGH" data-source="post: 4568340" data-attributes="member: 41187">The Warhammer settings are nasty.40,000: Science fiction universe of eternal war and oppression.  All humanity is (basically) united into one Empire, a theotractic dictatorship with some serious differences in technology levels across the realm.  There are a number of deadly alien races (Tau, Necrons, Eldar, Orks) whose mere existence helps add stability to the Empire while threatening to wipe out our species (or at least all of our existing cultures).  Additionally, there are the forces of Chaos, determined to consume and warp all that is to their evil purposes.  Chaos is both overt and covert in its approach, using corruption and invasion as it can.  If Chaos were unified and organized then it would win, but it wouldn't be Chaos anymore.Hope exists but it's a very grim universe.Fantasy: It's already a lost cause, but most people are too stubborn or ignorant to realize it.  Chaos is still the big bad, and it operates the same way, but in the Fantasy setting it's winning, big time.  Chaos has a permanent foothold at the northern end of the main continent, allowing it to continually invade the rest of the world, thus distracting the heroes and armies that might be able to cleanse the spreading corruption of Chaos infiltrators.Dwarves and elves are real, but fading.  Neither one is particularly friendly, either to each other or to humans, and tense relations are exacerbated by very long memories, especially for slights.Humans are no longer united, and their several nations waste much time and resources fighting each other rather than fending off the growing incursions of Chaos (both invasion from the north and locally risen cults and monstrocities in their own lands).  The helpful gods are waning, but the stubborn peoples of the Empire, Bretonnia, and the smaller lands are still fighting on.It's grim, deadly, and probably a lost cause.  There just aren't enough heroes to keep Chaos from getting stronger, and even heroes get killed in the struggles.  It's just a matter of time until Chaos claims all the world, unless something miraculous happens.Both settings are grim, gritty, and rely upon dangers of the body, sanity and soul to keep them interesting.It's my opinion that the Fantasy guys have gone too far in the direction of making things bad, as there is not currently any real hope of doing more than slowing down the advance of Chaos.  I feel that the 40K guys have done a much better job of maintaining a dynamic balance in the setting that keeps it dangerous (on personal and galactic scales) while still allowing for the hope of eventual victory.</blockquote>

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