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<blockquote data-quote="Technik4" data-source="post: 1050222" data-attributes="member: 7211"><p>Personally I think any disparity your comparison found is by not properly evaluating a wizard's disadvantage. If you assume the wizard can not/will not be able to get a Boccob's Blessed Book you are talking about a huge gold disparity. If you add in that many wizards take Item Creation Feats (thanks to those bonus feats) your wizard may be a level behind the sorceror, with more than a level's difference worth of gold for buying items even though they have earned the same amount of experience! In a balanced game (or starting a new game) this is a huge factor.</p><p></p><p>Also if you are going to ping the Sorceror for not having class skills and skill points and then cite this as a wizard advantage its double jeapordy for the sorceror. </p><p></p><p>My general sor vs wiz comparison (at all levels).</p><p></p><p>1st</p><p>Tie. Sorceror has more spells but worse skills. However that is also balanced because most wizard skills are passive knowledge or spellcraft skills. Sorc may have a slight edge.</p><p></p><p>2nd</p><p>Sorceror. Still has more spells and hasn't wasted a drop of gold on ink or scroll paper (for scribing). At lower levels the sorceror has a slightly better weapon choice so if they both run out of spells the sorceror is still on top.</p><p></p><p>3rd</p><p>Wizard. 2nd level spells tromp the poor sorc who is still using 1st level spells.</p><p></p><p>4th</p><p>Tie. They both have second level spells now, although the sorc only knows 1, he can use wands and scrolls to make up for the disparity. Also likely has more gold to spend on such things because these low levels are when wizards scribe a lot (since a +1 weapon won't do them much good in a fight anyway).</p><p></p><p>5th</p><p>Wizard. 3rd level spells AND a feat. No contest.</p><p></p><p>6th</p><p>Wizard. Despite the sorceror catching up in spell levels, the wizard qualified for some prcs last level and might have one this level. Of course prcs are supposed to be equal to regular classes (but more specialized) but this is rarely true as wizards have little to lose by joining a prc.</p><p></p><p>7th </p><p>Wizard. 4th level spells. Still behind in gold though.</p><p></p><p>Basically the pattern continues with sorcerors never really catching up (except perhaps at or around 19th and 20th).</p><p></p><p>Technik</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Technik4, post: 1050222, member: 7211"] Personally I think any disparity your comparison found is by not properly evaluating a wizard's disadvantage. If you assume the wizard can not/will not be able to get a Boccob's Blessed Book you are talking about a huge gold disparity. If you add in that many wizards take Item Creation Feats (thanks to those bonus feats) your wizard may be a level behind the sorceror, with more than a level's difference worth of gold for buying items even though they have earned the same amount of experience! In a balanced game (or starting a new game) this is a huge factor. Also if you are going to ping the Sorceror for not having class skills and skill points and then cite this as a wizard advantage its double jeapordy for the sorceror. My general sor vs wiz comparison (at all levels). 1st Tie. Sorceror has more spells but worse skills. However that is also balanced because most wizard skills are passive knowledge or spellcraft skills. Sorc may have a slight edge. 2nd Sorceror. Still has more spells and hasn't wasted a drop of gold on ink or scroll paper (for scribing). At lower levels the sorceror has a slightly better weapon choice so if they both run out of spells the sorceror is still on top. 3rd Wizard. 2nd level spells tromp the poor sorc who is still using 1st level spells. 4th Tie. They both have second level spells now, although the sorc only knows 1, he can use wands and scrolls to make up for the disparity. Also likely has more gold to spend on such things because these low levels are when wizards scribe a lot (since a +1 weapon won't do them much good in a fight anyway). 5th Wizard. 3rd level spells AND a feat. No contest. 6th Wizard. Despite the sorceror catching up in spell levels, the wizard qualified for some prcs last level and might have one this level. Of course prcs are supposed to be equal to regular classes (but more specialized) but this is rarely true as wizards have little to lose by joining a prc. 7th Wizard. 4th level spells. Still behind in gold though. Basically the pattern continues with sorcerors never really catching up (except perhaps at or around 19th and 20th). Technik [/QUOTE]
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