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<blockquote data-quote="delericho" data-source="post: 7661428" data-attributes="member: 22424">In cases like these, the details matter. In particular, it matters whether the generator is produced within the bounds of IP law or if it does not. In this case, it looks like infringement; in the Pathguy case it looks a bit different, and so <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?415712-C-amp-Ds-for-Online-D-amp-D-5E-Character-Generators/page10&amp;p=6521072&amp;viewfull=1#post6521072" target="_blank">my reaction</a> is a bit different. (But, of course, not being an IP lawyer, and also not knowing every detail of both cases I stand ready to be corrected on any point - always a peril of working with incomplete information.)Actually, nothing. The Pathfinder generator was taken down because of a letter from WotC, not Paizo. AFAIK, Paizo have taken no action at all as regards the generator, either to say &quot;stop&quot; or to say &quot;we're okay with it.&quot;Besides, just because person P is okay with you using their stuff doesn't mean person W should also be okay with it - if it's their stuff then they get to choose who gets to use it.I'm inclined to agree that WotC could do better in the digital sphere, and that does indeed include such things as making PDFs available for sale and getting their own tools up and running.But that's really a different issue from their response to these character generators, and tying them together really doesn't help. Because it's WotC prerogative to decide when (or even if) to make these things available, and not that of people who produce tools that infringe* on their IP.* Again, that &quot;infringe&quot; is an important detail. As I noted in that other thread, copyright laws exist for a very good reason but they also have some significant limits also for good reason. And so a person who can produce a non-infringing tool should be able to go about his lawful business without being hassled by WotC. It's only if and when the line is crossed that that changes. As I said, the details matter.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="delericho, post: 7661428, member: 22424"] In cases like these, the details matter. In particular, it matters whether the generator is produced within the bounds of IP law or if it does not. In this case, it looks like infringement; in the Pathguy case it looks a bit different, and so [URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?415712-C-amp-Ds-for-Online-D-amp-D-5E-Character-Generators/page10&p=6521072&viewfull=1#post6521072"]my reaction[/URL] is a bit different. (But, of course, not being an IP lawyer, and also not knowing every detail of both cases I stand ready to be corrected on any point - always a peril of working with incomplete information.) Actually, nothing. The Pathfinder generator was taken down because of a letter [i]from WotC[/i], not Paizo. AFAIK, Paizo have taken no action at all as regards the generator, either to say "stop" or to say "we're okay with it." Besides, just because person P is okay with you using their stuff doesn't mean person W should also be okay with it - if it's their stuff then they get to choose who gets to use it. I'm inclined to agree that WotC could do better in the digital sphere, and that does indeed include such things as making PDFs available for sale and getting their own tools up and running. But that's really a [i]different[/i] issue from their response to these character generators, and tying them together really doesn't help. Because it's WotC prerogative to decide when (or even if) to make these things available, and not that of people who produce tools that infringe* on their IP. * Again, that "infringe" is an important detail. As I noted in that other thread, copyright laws exist for a very good reason but they also have some significant limits [i]also for good reason[/i]. And so a person who can produce a [i]non-infringing[/i] tool should be able to go about his lawful business without being hassled by WotC. It's only if and when the line is crossed that that changes. As I said, the details matter. [/QUOTE]

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