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<blockquote data-quote="Obryn" data-source="post: 4945491" data-attributes="member: 11821"><p>I've said it before, and it may be a pipe-dream, but I like non-standard, non-generic settings.</p><p></p><p>My favorite purchases under the OGL/d20 STL were settings and supplements for those settings. While I have no use for generic character crunch, I love character crunch for new settings that fit in with a setting's themes.</p><p></p><p>I have <strong>zero </strong>use for generic player-oriented crunch. (No new classes, Paragon Paths, feats, or races that aren't designed for a specific new third-party setting.) DM-oriented crunch is dandy, but you have to convince me it's giving me something more - or something better - than I'm getting from WotC. This means reasonably solid mechanics, unique flavors, and fresh perspectives. I don't have any use for 100 poorly-made monsters, or 100 more monsters which offer me nothing more interesting than I've already gotten from WotC.</p><p></p><p>I like modules, so long as I have a reason to run them. If I'm getting no better than I'm getting from WotC, odds are I'll just stick with the stuff I'm getting from WotC. I also buy them on an as-needed basis; if I don't need one, I won't buy one.</p><p></p><p></p><p>For illustration, my favorite stuff I bought under the OGL/d20 STL were...</p><p></p><p>* Wilderlands Box Set (+ several supplements for it, one of which is a Least Favorite)</p><p>* Arcana Unearthed/Evolved (most of the product line for both, one of which is a Least Favorite)</p><p>* Monte Cook's Chaositech (DM crunch with awesome and unique flavor)</p><p>* Black Company Campaign Setting</p><p>* Testament</p><p>* A few DCC's.</p><p>* Tome of Horrors</p><p></p><p>My least favorite, least-used stuff I bought under OGL/d20 STL were...</p><p></p><p>- Complete Book of Eldritch Might</p><p>- Arcana Evolved Spell Treasury (although it was part of the above, it also broke many things)</p><p>- Wilderlands Player's Guide (reprinted information, and shoddy mechanics)</p><p>- Pretty much all non-Tome-of-Horrors 3rd-party monster books, including Creature Catalogs.</p><p></p><p>Everything else was pretty middling stuff that I may have enjoyed but which I never used. I would be unlikely to buy more stuff in this category, either - WotC is doing a better job of giving me stuff I want this edition than it was last time around.</p><p></p><p>So yeah. Basically, I want something I'm not already getting from WotC. But it also has to be high-caliber, with solid mechanics.</p><p></p><p>-O</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Obryn, post: 4945491, member: 11821"] I've said it before, and it may be a pipe-dream, but I like non-standard, non-generic settings. My favorite purchases under the OGL/d20 STL were settings and supplements for those settings. While I have no use for generic character crunch, I love character crunch for new settings that fit in with a setting's themes. I have [B]zero [/B]use for generic player-oriented crunch. (No new classes, Paragon Paths, feats, or races that aren't designed for a specific new third-party setting.) DM-oriented crunch is dandy, but you have to convince me it's giving me something more - or something better - than I'm getting from WotC. This means reasonably solid mechanics, unique flavors, and fresh perspectives. I don't have any use for 100 poorly-made monsters, or 100 more monsters which offer me nothing more interesting than I've already gotten from WotC. I like modules, so long as I have a reason to run them. If I'm getting no better than I'm getting from WotC, odds are I'll just stick with the stuff I'm getting from WotC. I also buy them on an as-needed basis; if I don't need one, I won't buy one. For illustration, my favorite stuff I bought under the OGL/d20 STL were... * Wilderlands Box Set (+ several supplements for it, one of which is a Least Favorite) * Arcana Unearthed/Evolved (most of the product line for both, one of which is a Least Favorite) * Monte Cook's Chaositech (DM crunch with awesome and unique flavor) * Black Company Campaign Setting * Testament * A few DCC's. * Tome of Horrors My least favorite, least-used stuff I bought under OGL/d20 STL were... - Complete Book of Eldritch Might - Arcana Evolved Spell Treasury (although it was part of the above, it also broke many things) - Wilderlands Player's Guide (reprinted information, and shoddy mechanics) - Pretty much all non-Tome-of-Horrors 3rd-party monster books, including Creature Catalogs. Everything else was pretty middling stuff that I may have enjoyed but which I never used. I would be unlikely to buy more stuff in this category, either - WotC is doing a better job of giving me stuff I want this edition than it was last time around. So yeah. Basically, I want something I'm not already getting from WotC. But it also has to be high-caliber, with solid mechanics. -O [/QUOTE]
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