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<blockquote data-quote="thecasualoblivion" data-source="post: 4958970" data-attributes="member: 59096">What is the larger picture?So, are you saying that ENWorld's attempt at embracing or at the least making room at the table for 4E either hurt itself or the 3PP discussion community as a whole? I'm trying to understand this. I see a few things here:1. I don't find the reasoning that the OGL was an integral part of D&amp;D, or that discussion of OGL/3PP was discussion of D&amp;D universal. I never really held that opinion, and during my 3.5E days I basically refused to bother with anything not released by WotC, and I didn't really consider OGL books D&amp;D. I spent most of my time online at WotC's forums during 3.5E's tenure, and that was the prevailing opinion there, and it was a large community. I only began checking ENWorld when this place had better news about 4E prior to its release.2. The OGL made D&amp;D open to almost everything, but 4E changed all of that. A big part of the D&amp;D community is 4E, and 4E is most certainly not open. 3. I don't know that this place was objectively D&amp;D central. WotC's forums certainly beat ENWorld out in terms of volume. 4. What was the talk on ENWorld after 4E was announced? Was it not D&amp;D talk anymore?I'm not really sure exactly what you mean here. Are you saying that ENWorld's decisions had something to do with the root cause of the lack of support for 3PP and in turn the lack of support for itself? I had said that I believed the decline in 3PP/OGL has influenced the decline of ENWorld. If not this, then what?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="thecasualoblivion, post: 4958970, member: 59096"] What is the larger picture? So, are you saying that ENWorld's attempt at embracing or at the least making room at the table for 4E either hurt itself or the 3PP discussion community as a whole? I'm trying to understand this. I see a few things here: 1. I don't find the reasoning that the OGL was an integral part of D&D, or that discussion of OGL/3PP was discussion of D&D universal. I never really held that opinion, and during my 3.5E days I basically refused to bother with anything not released by WotC, and I didn't really consider OGL books D&D. I spent most of my time online at WotC's forums during 3.5E's tenure, and that was the prevailing opinion there, and it was a large community. I only began checking ENWorld when this place had better news about 4E prior to its release. 2. The OGL made D&D open to almost everything, but 4E changed all of that. A big part of the D&D community is 4E, and 4E is most certainly not open. 3. I don't know that this place was objectively D&D central. WotC's forums certainly beat ENWorld out in terms of volume. 4. What was the talk on ENWorld after 4E was announced? Was it not D&D talk anymore? I'm not really sure exactly what you mean here. Are you saying that ENWorld's decisions had something to do with the root cause of the lack of support for 3PP and in turn the lack of support for itself? I had said that I believed the decline in 3PP/OGL has influenced the decline of ENWorld. If not this, then what? [/QUOTE]

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