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<blockquote data-quote="JoeGKushner" data-source="post: 4960203" data-attributes="member: 1129"><p>Well, a lot of the 'big' names of the OGL have moved onto other things than D&D clones.</p><p></p><p>Mind you, some like Monte are still involved with the Dungeon a Day bit but others like Mongoose gained a notorious reputation for delving into crap for D&D products and binding and other things, but have a fanbase for other games like Runequest, Traveller, etc... Green Ronin's Mutants and Masterminds is probably more popular than their Freeport line and even though it's using the OGL, it's not a D&D clone. Other companies have folded due to the 3.5 hit or the Osseum hit.</p><p></p><p>It could also be that the 3.5 crowd that went to 4e doesn't want any third party support as the amount of 4e official support is huge. I know in my tail end of playing 3.5 that the GM automatically vetoed 99% of all third party material.</p><p></p><p>It could also be that the brand new 4e crowd doesn't really care about 3rd party support having avoided all of it entirely with the new edition and see no need for it. There's not a lot of 3rd party support for 4e in book stores. When White Wolf was in the ring with the Scarred Lands and other bits, you could go to Borders or Barnes and Nobles and see what was new and going on.</p><p></p><p>With the PDf support, yeah, there might be more direct sales but if 4e people are mainly bookstore buyers, and with WoTC complete lack of concern for the PDF market, that may be a huge factor. </p><p></p><p>Outside of Goodman, how many 3rd party publishers have put out any products with high production values that can be found in Borders? Any?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JoeGKushner, post: 4960203, member: 1129"] Well, a lot of the 'big' names of the OGL have moved onto other things than D&D clones. Mind you, some like Monte are still involved with the Dungeon a Day bit but others like Mongoose gained a notorious reputation for delving into crap for D&D products and binding and other things, but have a fanbase for other games like Runequest, Traveller, etc... Green Ronin's Mutants and Masterminds is probably more popular than their Freeport line and even though it's using the OGL, it's not a D&D clone. Other companies have folded due to the 3.5 hit or the Osseum hit. It could also be that the 3.5 crowd that went to 4e doesn't want any third party support as the amount of 4e official support is huge. I know in my tail end of playing 3.5 that the GM automatically vetoed 99% of all third party material. It could also be that the brand new 4e crowd doesn't really care about 3rd party support having avoided all of it entirely with the new edition and see no need for it. There's not a lot of 3rd party support for 4e in book stores. When White Wolf was in the ring with the Scarred Lands and other bits, you could go to Borders or Barnes and Nobles and see what was new and going on. With the PDf support, yeah, there might be more direct sales but if 4e people are mainly bookstore buyers, and with WoTC complete lack of concern for the PDF market, that may be a huge factor. Outside of Goodman, how many 3rd party publishers have put out any products with high production values that can be found in Borders? Any? [/QUOTE]
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