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Message: <blockquote data-quote="SteveC" data-source="post: 6346477" data-attributes="member: 9053">Just wanted to make a quick comment here. Ruin Explorer is coming forward to say some things that I strongly agree with, but don't actually comment on, because of edition fatigue and not wanting to be "that guy," who's always negative.The other ENWorlders who I know and talk with on other boards (or in real life) who agree with that point of view similarly don't chime in that often to actually comment. This comes from a loooong Fourth Edition flamewar that I think most folks are just tired of.At the moment, 5E is being received very well for its return to the roots of the game: people who have been critical of the last edition have been very positive, and I think that's great for them. The issue that I have is that when someone posts like Ruin Explorer, the comments start: they're immediately being negative, and should stop being that way, and why can't we all just get along?This is especially ironic, since it comes from some folks (not you, Mistwell: I want to be clear that I'm not directing this part at you!) who spent the last few years doing the same thing about 4E. How many times did I have to read about no roleplaying or how the game was just an MMO-wannebe?So I guess the point I'm making is that there are more than a few people who agree with views like Ruin Explorer has, but they're just not looking for a fight at this point. I'm just tired, and hoping that I'll find something in the new Edition that will make me want to keep playing it. I have a lot of hopes riding on the DMG, most of them are probably unrealistic ones, but there we are.I suspect that we'll see modules that address a lot of my concerns in the next couple of years, since the issues that people are finding fault with have been discussed since pretty much the start of the hobby, and many of them were addressed in 4E, so WotC acknowledged at some point that they actually were a thing. We simply get to have a lot of these old discussions and debates again, until something is done to address them. Just to be clear: nothing personally directed at you Mistwell... I really like how excited you (and others) are about the new Edition, it's just something that excites me at this point.</blockquote>

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