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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 6346607" data-attributes="member: 996">You went on&nbsp; about 4e and what they 'didn't' do - actually just didn't do publicly, which you equated to not doing at all - and ignored the actual point.&nbsp; You want to go on about how WotC has sooo much data and market research on which they based 5e, and therefor 'the majority' must want what you want.&nbsp; Fine.&nbsp; Just be aware that you're not the first one to do that.&nbsp; Folks claimed Essentials was what everyone wanted for the same reason - that WotC had all this 'data' and 'market research.'&nbsp; The same assumption - that the 'big company' had those resources (whether they made a point of a public context for them or not, and however much or little of the results they shared) - was made about 4e.&nbsp; Probably 3e, too, though I don't recall anyone resorting to such arguments at the time.It's a facile, and ultimately meaningless assumption.And, it's just representative of the cycle we're seeing.&nbsp; Each rev-roll has it's instant fanboys and instant critics who won't hear a word against it or can't say enough bad about it, and they're always casting about for ways to justify themselves.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 6346607, member: 996"] You went on about 4e and what they 'didn't' do - actually just didn't do publicly, which you equated to not doing at all - and ignored the actual point. You want to go on about how WotC has sooo much data and market research on which they based 5e, and therefor 'the majority' must want what you want. Fine. Just be aware that you're not the first one to do that. Folks claimed Essentials was what everyone wanted for the same reason - that WotC had all this 'data' and 'market research.' The same assumption - that the 'big company' had those resources (whether they made a point of a public context for them or not, and however much or little of the results they shared) - was made about 4e. Probably 3e, too, though I don't recall anyone resorting to such arguments at the time. It's a facile, and ultimately meaningless assumption. And, it's just representative of the cycle we're seeing. Each rev-roll has it's instant fanboys and instant critics who won't hear a word against it or can't say enough bad about it, and they're always casting about for ways to justify themselves. [/QUOTE]

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