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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 6346611" data-attributes="member: 2525">When someone says that, then it would make sense to reply to it.  But nobody said that, except you.  Nobody said the playtest was some flawless representation of what people want.  All I, or anyone I have seen, has said is that it tends to be a better tool to measure consumer sentiment than not doing such a large open playtest.  The results you get for it have better odds of being correct - and odds are not 100%, just indications of what is or is not a "good bet".Well after you just went on an extensive rant about how much you didn't like the development process for 5e, it's no doubt that you take it with a grain of salt.  I don't though.  The idea that the designers are lying, that they are engaging in some large conspiracy to misrepresent their findings so they can present their own personal preferences, and to do it in a way that would directly run contrary to them keeping their jobs (because the implication is they are going against what the majority of respondents want, which means the game won't sell well, which means they will be more likely to get laid off) is an extraordinary claim which therefore requires extraordinary evidence to support it.  Baring such evidence, I think it's fair to accept their comments as prima facia correct.</blockquote>