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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 6346651" data-attributes="member: 2525">It means what I said it means.  That it's a well-represented view.  Not a sure bet that it is a majority view, not a sure bet that it is 100% anything.  I also said it "Tends to indicate" which is another way of saying "It increases the odds that".  I'm pretty careful when talking about these things.  I've never said, or implied, that what WOTC was a sure bet to get them what the majority wants.No what you said was, "As far as the assumptions of 4E being incorrect. I think one must take those comments with more than a grain of salt: if they're coming from the recent Schwab article, they're from someone who didn't actually like 4E in the first place. Moreover, they're exactly the sort of thing you'd say when you're making changes... they're just done with a better Diplomacy check than during the 4E period."So in that paragraph you said that the comment is coming from someone who did not like 4e in the first place, and therefore the obvious implication (or else the claim has no meaning) is that he's intentionally biasing his claim towards his own preferences.  The second part of your paragraph implies (because again it has no meaning otherwise) that what they are saying is just for public relations purposes, IE what their actual data says does not play a role in their goals in saying it.So no, none of what I was replying to had a damn thing to do with missing options in a playtest and had everything to do with you implying people lying and engaging in a conspiracy, which runs counter to them keeping their jobs, to satisfy their own preferences and biases for the game.  It's an extraordinary claim, and I am waiting for your extraordinary evidence to back it up.  Explain to me why polling here indicates he can be part of a 3-person response while 60 people will respond the other way? I asked you before how this silent support for him could be played out in the polling, and how generally it's negative voices who are MORE willing to post their thoughts on the Internet than positive ones, and I didn't see you respond.  If you want me to accept this claim that RE has some secret silent significant support behind the scenes, you'll have to answer those issues.</blockquote>

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