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<blockquote data-quote="GreyLord" data-source="post: 5784915" data-attributes="member: 4348"><p>People assume that Paizo is in competition with WotC. This isn't necessarily true. They also compare the two. There really isn't much comparison in some areas between what makes Paizo successful and what makes WotC successful. </p><p></p><p>I am GLAD Paizo is successful. How many people buy their adventure paths? I think it is a big enough seller to make them money. </p><p></p><p>Let's say they have 30,000 people that are devoted to buying their adventure paths.</p><p></p><p>That pays out ~600,000 a month? That would be 7.2 million a year.</p><p></p><p>That's saying they all get the hardcopy at $20 a month.</p><p></p><p>Let's be super generous, let's say they actually have a 50,000 customer base that all buy hardcopies at $20 a month.</p><p></p><p>That's a million dollars a month? Right? That's only 12 million a year.</p><p></p><p>I think it's grand that they are being successful and I have no doubt that the statements they made about their adventure paths being a VERY important items is true.</p><p></p><p>I think they print outstanding products and I applaud everything they make. My guesses are that...PURE guesses (I'd actually think that their subscribers are LESS than the numbers I put up and not all buy hardcopy...but that amount they make is also bolstered by those who buy rulebooks and other items), but I don't think they are the contenders that everyone thinks they are.</p><p></p><p>I don't think WotC would subsist on the same items or same amounts that Paizo deals with.</p><p></p><p>That doesn't detract from my respect I have for everyone at Paizo and what they do. I think they do an outstanding job, and I think it's great that they are being successful.</p><p></p><p>But what makes an independant RPG business successful, and what would make WotC successful are two different things in my opinion.</p><p></p><p>Currently I hope that WotC is on the right track, to garner MORE support than what is seen with any game out there, and gather more players under the umbrella of one game. It's a different ballpark that WotC is playing in.</p><p></p><p>In that, I hope that people still also play Paizo games and their adventure paths and continue to make Paizo successful in their endeavors. I am glad that Paizo is successful, but I don't think Paizo is really comparable in numbers (moneywise) to what WotC was putting out at it's height. (Edit: OR what WotC needs as a goal now)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GreyLord, post: 5784915, member: 4348"] People assume that Paizo is in competition with WotC. This isn't necessarily true. They also compare the two. There really isn't much comparison in some areas between what makes Paizo successful and what makes WotC successful. I am GLAD Paizo is successful. How many people buy their adventure paths? I think it is a big enough seller to make them money. Let's say they have 30,000 people that are devoted to buying their adventure paths. That pays out ~600,000 a month? That would be 7.2 million a year. That's saying they all get the hardcopy at $20 a month. Let's be super generous, let's say they actually have a 50,000 customer base that all buy hardcopies at $20 a month. That's a million dollars a month? Right? That's only 12 million a year. I think it's grand that they are being successful and I have no doubt that the statements they made about their adventure paths being a VERY important items is true. I think they print outstanding products and I applaud everything they make. My guesses are that...PURE guesses (I'd actually think that their subscribers are LESS than the numbers I put up and not all buy hardcopy...but that amount they make is also bolstered by those who buy rulebooks and other items), but I don't think they are the contenders that everyone thinks they are. I don't think WotC would subsist on the same items or same amounts that Paizo deals with. That doesn't detract from my respect I have for everyone at Paizo and what they do. I think they do an outstanding job, and I think it's great that they are being successful. But what makes an independant RPG business successful, and what would make WotC successful are two different things in my opinion. Currently I hope that WotC is on the right track, to garner MORE support than what is seen with any game out there, and gather more players under the umbrella of one game. It's a different ballpark that WotC is playing in. In that, I hope that people still also play Paizo games and their adventure paths and continue to make Paizo successful in their endeavors. I am glad that Paizo is successful, but I don't think Paizo is really comparable in numbers (moneywise) to what WotC was putting out at it's height. (Edit: OR what WotC needs as a goal now) [/QUOTE]
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