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<blockquote data-quote="Imaro" data-source="post: 5804781" data-attributes="member: 48965">There was a long thread on ENworld that was recently ressurected that had numerous reactions to the announcement of Pathfinder, I'm not going back and searching for it for you but there were quite a few posters who claimed Pathfinder had no brand name recognition and this would contribute to it's failure. If it's important for you to be informed about the matter then by all means look it up, but I'm not going to spend the time doing it for you. OAN... nowhere have I claimed that you specifically said &quot;PF was going to fail because it didn't use the D&amp;D brand name.&quot;. What I have claimed is that it didn't use the brand name recognition of D&amp;D to succeed.&nbsp;FYI... Paizo is not a &quot;spin off&quot; of WotC, it's a seperate company that employs former employees of WotC and Pathfinder is sold in game stores as &quot;Pathfinder&quot; not as &quot;game 3.75&quot; or as &quot;D&amp;D 3.75&quot;... though I have heard it refered to as such by fans.&nbsp;&nbsp;Sooo... Pathfinder is a game, designed to feel and function like another game (D&amp;D 3.5) with small tweaks (which both OSRIC and Labyrinth Lord, as well as many other retro-clones also have)... and is largely compatible with the material from the edition it is based off of (Like OSRIC and Labyrinth Lord, and every other retro-clone). Finally all were printed after the edition they were based on was no longer published by the current owner of D&amp;D... and the difference is??? I'm trying to follow your logic, but it's just not making any sense to me.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Imaro, post: 5804781, member: 48965"] There was a long thread on ENworld that was recently ressurected that had numerous reactions to the announcement of Pathfinder, I'm not going back and searching for it for you but there were quite a few posters who claimed Pathfinder had no brand name recognition and this would contribute to it's failure. If it's important for you to be informed about the matter then by all means look it up, but I'm not going to spend the time doing it for you. OAN... nowhere have I claimed that you specifically said "PF was going to fail because it didn't use the D&D brand name.". What I have claimed is that it didn't use the brand name recognition of D&D to succeed. FYI... Paizo is not a "spin off" of WotC, it's a seperate company that employs former employees of WotC and Pathfinder is sold in game stores as "Pathfinder" not as "game 3.75" or as "D&D 3.75"... though I have heard it refered to as such by fans. Sooo... Pathfinder is a game, designed to feel and function like another game (D&D 3.5) with small tweaks (which both OSRIC and Labyrinth Lord, as well as many other retro-clones also have)... and is largely compatible with the material from the edition it is based off of (Like OSRIC and Labyrinth Lord, and every other retro-clone). Finally all were printed after the edition they were based on was no longer published by the current owner of D&D... and the difference is??? I'm trying to follow your logic, but it's just not making any sense to me. [/QUOTE]

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