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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 4897253" data-attributes="member: 177">I think, "Everyone who likes 4e's WOW-like combat is immature," is close to #1, and I have seen it several times.  The other examples (from both sides) are too numerous to list.  Yep.  Note how I said that the statement was not itself constructive, and had little point, but that there was risk of people assuming there was a point?  That's likely what's happening.  In the context of events since 4e's launch, that assumption really shouldn't be unexpected.#3 is, in fact, honest truth.  I did run memorial dungeon crawls, and I have considered doing a mini-campaign, even thought I stopped regularly playing 1e a long, long time ago.  No, I don't believe telling people sincere truth that puts my question in a context that is not threatening, "supplicating".  I think it settling questions up front.  And I did it with just a few sentences.  Easy-peasy.  Little cost to me, lots of problems dispelled or avoided.On top of that, I don't view showing a little basic respect for others and their sensibilities "bowing and scraping".  I am going to assume that is a dramatic overstatement, because the other obvious implication is that this is a matter of pride - and I can't help you with that.You are in a text-only medium.  Face to face, you could say, "I hate X", and the audience can hear your vocal tone, look at your body language and facial expression, and gauge a bit about what you mean by "hate" - they'll be able to tell where you sit between actual disgust and a dramatically overstated vague dislike.  In simple text, you need to use words to replace that non-textual information to get the same meaning across.  Bullgrit, you are trying to deal with human beings.  Think about that for a moment, in the light of your cynical "rule for all forums across the Internet" above.  Do you honestly think you should reasonably expect to communicate clearly without putting in at least a little thought into how you present yoruself?  That you can expect to be given respect without putting a little effort into giving some yourself?  I'm sorry if that's too much like work.  But it is the nature of the beast.</blockquote>

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