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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Snarf Zagyg" data-source="post: 9746081" data-attributes="member: 7023840">Well, that brings up yet another weird quirk for the Bard!9. What are the minimum required ability scores to be a bard?A bard must have scores of 15 or better in the following abilities: strength, wisdom, dexterity and charisma. Furthermore, a bard must have at least a 12 score in intelligence and a 10 in constitution.Okay, so a Bard must have:S: 15I: 12W: 15D: 15Con: 10Ch: 15If that's an unfamiliar order to you, git gud...EXCEPT!You start as a fighter. Then you have to TC into a thief. And there are rules for a TC character. Specifically-In order to switch from one class to another, the character must have an ability score of 15 or more in the principal attribute(s) ability of the original class and a 17 or 18 in the principal attribute(s) of the class changed to.So the principal attribute of a fighter is strength. And the principal attribute of a Thief is Dexterity. (<a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/how-to-read-a-rule-dueling-canons-in-d-d.699698/" target="_blank">Source</a>) So you need a 15 strength (already covered) and ... a 17 dexterity to TC into thief. So .... really, it's:S: 15I: 12W: 15D: 17Con: 10Ch: 15Because you can't become a bard without first TCing into the thief class. Or something. Who knows?</blockquote>