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<blockquote data-quote="stevelabny" data-source="post: 903203" data-attributes="member: 9298"><p>ok, first CHRIS CLAREMONT is THE x-men writer.</p><p>stan lee wrote the early issues</p><p>len wein wrote giant size x-men #1 which re-introduced the team after years of repeats in the regular monthly titles</p><p>len wein plotted 94 and 95 with claremont writing</p><p>and then then claremont was fully in control from 96 in 1976 until the mid-90s. 17 years he wrote this book.</p><p>he IS the writer who turned this book into THE best-selling comic. to say any different is to be.... WRONG.</p><p></p><p>yes, his style is overly wordy.</p><p>yes, he tended to leave certain plots lying around too long.</p><p>and yes, like many other comic writers oh his time he has long since "lost his touch" but he had 17 year run. came back for a few months, left again. and is last i checked, STILL the writer of the latest x-spinoff X-TREME X-MEN. ( i doubt he picked the title)</p><p></p><p>to say that he doesn't have a good grasp on the main concept, themes and plots of the x-men and their history is WRONG. he IS their history.</p><p></p><p>the x-men's troubles are symbolic of any and all prejudice in the world. for ANY minority. this includes homosexuals. for those who "still" didnt get it, the legacy virus storyline was one of the most thinly disguised aids stories ever printed. </p><p></p><p>we lost some good mutants (and humans) to the legacy virus and i'd hate to take something from their passing by not accepting what their deaths were symbolic of. a moment of silence for Colossus, Magik, Pyro, Mastermind, Moira McTaggart and the rest (characters so good that 2 1/2 of them made it into the movie)</p><p><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> </p><p></p><p>It's like my earlier post said, YES this writer has gone a little overboard for reasons we can only guess, BUT to completely deny the relation between the two just makes people sound like theyre promoting their OWN agenda. </p><p></p><p>(and also remember not to cross contaminate movie and comic canon... xavier and magneto have kids in the comic, but we have NO idea whether they have kids in the movie) </p><p></p><p>and if you want to blame the reviewers gay-obsessed commentary on his extrapolations on someone involved with the film, i doubt it would be soley focused on ian mckellan, but more so on THE DIRECTOR bryan singer.</p><p></p><p>defending both sides of this arguement,</p><p>steve</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="stevelabny, post: 903203, member: 9298"] ok, first CHRIS CLAREMONT is THE x-men writer. stan lee wrote the early issues len wein wrote giant size x-men #1 which re-introduced the team after years of repeats in the regular monthly titles len wein plotted 94 and 95 with claremont writing and then then claremont was fully in control from 96 in 1976 until the mid-90s. 17 years he wrote this book. he IS the writer who turned this book into THE best-selling comic. to say any different is to be.... WRONG. yes, his style is overly wordy. yes, he tended to leave certain plots lying around too long. and yes, like many other comic writers oh his time he has long since "lost his touch" but he had 17 year run. came back for a few months, left again. and is last i checked, STILL the writer of the latest x-spinoff X-TREME X-MEN. ( i doubt he picked the title) to say that he doesn't have a good grasp on the main concept, themes and plots of the x-men and their history is WRONG. he IS their history. the x-men's troubles are symbolic of any and all prejudice in the world. for ANY minority. this includes homosexuals. for those who "still" didnt get it, the legacy virus storyline was one of the most thinly disguised aids stories ever printed. we lost some good mutants (and humans) to the legacy virus and i'd hate to take something from their passing by not accepting what their deaths were symbolic of. a moment of silence for Colossus, Magik, Pyro, Mastermind, Moira McTaggart and the rest (characters so good that 2 1/2 of them made it into the movie) :D :D :D It's like my earlier post said, YES this writer has gone a little overboard for reasons we can only guess, BUT to completely deny the relation between the two just makes people sound like theyre promoting their OWN agenda. (and also remember not to cross contaminate movie and comic canon... xavier and magneto have kids in the comic, but we have NO idea whether they have kids in the movie) and if you want to blame the reviewers gay-obsessed commentary on his extrapolations on someone involved with the film, i doubt it would be soley focused on ian mckellan, but more so on THE DIRECTOR bryan singer. defending both sides of this arguement, steve [/QUOTE]
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