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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 6482479" data-attributes="member: 4937">Again, I did not say that I wanted to run an adventure involving innkeepers.  Since I don't want to derail the thread by taking it in a completely different and even more controversial direction, I'll just say that it doesn't make since to me that any contest would have to be ran at the level of detailed full focus simulation.  It's entirely possible that a player or group would enjoy knowing the results of a contest between his character and an NPC innkeeper, without wanting to spend 20 years gaming it and would instead want to run the contest with the same degree of abstraction as "background activity" with minimal running of the 'what do you do now?' loop.And again, you are missing the point.  There is a vast range of possibilities for action resolution between book keeping a transaction and playing it out IC.  It's quite possible for a player or DM to want to haggle a transaction AND also play it out abstractly.   That is to say, a player or DM might want the PC's charisma or the NPC's stinginess to influence a transaction, but not want to spend 15 minutes on IC RP.</blockquote>