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<blockquote data-quote="Big J Money" data-source="post: 7883218" data-attributes="member: 70533"><p><strong>@Anyone</strong> who responded to my comment on never seeing the described "death spiral":</p><p></p><p>I may have misunderstood what was meant by this term, because when I said that I've never seen it happen before, I was responding to the original description of it, which was:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>My reading of this definition of death spiral is:</p><p></p><p>1. Party does not have full resources because they've been in battle a few times and have not long rested yet</p><p>2. Party gets more injured and cannot heal further -- they must make downtime if they wish to heal</p><p>3. The DM decides that this downtime is a hard and fast rule -- the players must take the time to rest or continue on; it won't happen as quickly as overnight</p><p>4. Now the game is unwinnable -- The PCs are doomed to fail</p><p></p><p>^^ I have never seen this happen in all my years of playing D&D. What I have seen happen is one of 2 things:</p><p></p><p>A) The party decides it's time to rest after all, and they take the down time (I <em>never</em> put the PCs in a situation where an adventure is "unwinnable" beause too much time has passed, however I <em>do</em> create consequences. They simply have to live with the consuquences, or sometimes undo them)</p><p>B) The party decides they want to take the risk, and they either pull ahead as champions with gret luck, or one or more of them are killed in a bloody battle. If there is a TPK, we roll up new charaacters and continue on.</p><p></p><p>In neither case is the game "unwinnable". The world changes, consequences of course always happen, but some protagonists will always rise. I suppose a group of players could decide they no longer want to play D&D after a TPK but that hasn't happened to me, yet. One of my procedures of play in D&D is that every player has a backup character already made for when theirs dies.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Big J Money, post: 7883218, member: 70533"] [B]@Anyone[/B] who responded to my comment on never seeing the described "death spiral": I may have misunderstood what was meant by this term, because when I said that I've never seen it happen before, I was responding to the original description of it, which was: My reading of this definition of death spiral is: 1. Party does not have full resources because they've been in battle a few times and have not long rested yet 2. Party gets more injured and cannot heal further -- they must make downtime if they wish to heal 3. The DM decides that this downtime is a hard and fast rule -- the players must take the time to rest or continue on; it won't happen as quickly as overnight 4. Now the game is unwinnable -- The PCs are doomed to fail ^^ I have never seen this happen in all my years of playing D&D. What I have seen happen is one of 2 things: A) The party decides it's time to rest after all, and they take the down time (I [I]never[/I] put the PCs in a situation where an adventure is "unwinnable" beause too much time has passed, however I [I]do[/I] create consequences. They simply have to live with the consuquences, or sometimes undo them) B) The party decides they want to take the risk, and they either pull ahead as champions with gret luck, or one or more of them are killed in a bloody battle. If there is a TPK, we roll up new charaacters and continue on. In neither case is the game "unwinnable". The world changes, consequences of course always happen, but some protagonists will always rise. I suppose a group of players could decide they no longer want to play D&D after a TPK but that hasn't happened to me, yet. One of my procedures of play in D&D is that every player has a backup character already made for when theirs dies. [/QUOTE]
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