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<blockquote data-quote="Agent Oracle" data-source="post: 3335185" data-attributes="member: 40076">Just want to point out: Vetinary has killed at least one person, as an assassin.&nbsp; AND he lead another to his death, as the ruler of the city.Remember &quot;Night Watch&quot;, where Vimes is thrown back in time to become his own mentor?&nbsp; Yes.&nbsp; Havelock killed Lord Snapcase.&nbsp; And at the end of Going Postal, he gave Reacher Gilt the option of running the treasury or walking out the door.&nbsp; Gilt walked out the door and into a deadfall, where it is presumed he died messily.Speaking of which, Moist Von Lipwig is the very ideal of a Neutral Evil rogue.&nbsp; He'd sell any man a piece of glass and foil for two hundred gold, BUT he dosn't kill anybody.&nbsp; When his illusions are shattered by Mr. Pump, he kicks off his severe alignment drift over the course of the book.&nbsp; Ultimately becoming neutral good (though still underhanded, all those ranks in bluff have to be used for something!)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Agent Oracle, post: 3335185, member: 40076"] Just want to point out: Vetinary [u]has[/u] killed at least one person, as an assassin. AND he lead another to his death, as the ruler of the city. Remember "Night Watch", where Vimes is thrown back in time to become his own mentor? Yes. Havelock killed Lord Snapcase. And at the end of Going Postal, he gave Reacher Gilt the option of running the treasury or walking out the door. Gilt walked out the door and into a deadfall, where it is presumed he died messily. Speaking of which, [i]Moist Von Lipwig[/i] is the very ideal of a Neutral Evil rogue. He'd sell any man a piece of glass and foil for two hundred gold, BUT he dosn't kill anybody. When his illusions are shattered by Mr. Pump, he kicks off his severe alignment drift over the course of the book. Ultimately becoming neutral good (though still underhanded, all those ranks in bluff have to be used for something!) [/QUOTE]

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