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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tashtego" data-source="post: 6287837" data-attributes="member: 5373">I read through the magic system in OLD.  I first I thought it was a freeform magic system, a bit like Mage or Ars Magica, but it's really more a spell construction system.  I did find some parts a bit unclear and would suggest some more examples in future drafts.Here are some thoughts I had from reading through the magic system. What is a 'spell list' exactly? 'Evoke fire' or 'Evoke'? It's not a clear a term.Advancement refers to a psionic power level. How much XP to actually learn a spell?  When you learn a spell, do you learn the 'verb' + 'noun' combo as a 'spell list' or just a 'noun' or a 'verb'? If I learn 'Evoke fire' can I do everything involving 'evoke fire' and buff or modify my spell accordingly?Are you worried about the action economy with only one hour to restore full MP?  I remember D&D designers stressing out about the adventuring action economy based on the speed of regaining spells.Why write the spell at Evoke Lightning 0/Gen 1? It doesn't actually tell you what the spell does, especially if there are lots of enhancement costs bundled into the Gen list.I didn't think 'Illusion' was a good verb name.  Mind you, it is rather clear.So you can cast a spell without a complete list?  I'm still confused by this spell list term.  To me, 'evoke fire' isn't a spell list.P116 refers to 'gaining a level'?  I don't get what 'level' means in the context of what I've read about the spell system so far.I would have liked Divine and Scry to be linked to elements/creatures rather than just being generic, open-ended lists.  (Unless you're supposed to piggyback them onto another spell list?)  For example, to me, Divine Metal (allowing you to learn about a sword's history) is cooler than the current Divine List.  And you could have interesting combinations with Divine Time/Divine Space.With the Create stuff list, should there be a table for volumes of matter?Can you heal an element?  Like Heal Stone to repair a stone wall?It seems you need to read all of the fiddly stuff to build a spell, rather than using the system as a freeform magic system.  Is that actually the case?Some other random thoughts:Is it possible to have the measurements in metric, or in a generic unit like 'squares'?Do you have a transcript of your rpg.net chat?It would be brilliant if you could get full Hero Lab support for the systems, especially for all of your spaceship/stronghold design sub-systems.Anyway, I've been enjoying the drafts so far!  I look forward to seeing how the system develops.</blockquote>

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