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<blockquote data-quote="BryonD" data-source="post: 6858473" data-attributes="member: 957"><p>You started by saying that you are playing a game due to "life circumstances" and therefore that game doesn't fit your preferences by result of the system itself.</p><p>Now you are expressing concern over an issue that very much comes down to DM.</p><p></p><p>You are also calling for a "big tent" game while advocating for the smallest tent in D&D's history as your primary preference.</p><p></p><p>There seems to be a common element of using inclusive buzz-words to describe a condition that boils down to you want the game catered to you.</p><p></p><p>If you don't like 5E, don't play 5E. "Life circumstances" is a highly vague condition. If you wife is going to leave you because you won't play in her game, then you have much bigger concerns than how much you enjoy the system of choice. So I'm going to presume that your "life circumstance" is some variation of "I want to game, they only group that will have me plays 5e". </p><p>Is the net value positive? If yes, play. If no, don't.</p><p></p><p>But if you play, don't try to cut against the grain of the system. You are just banging you head against a wall and then wondering why your head hurts.</p><p></p><p>I find 5E to be far and away the biggest tent of any edition ever. So much so that, IMO, 5E RAW rather sucks. But the bits and pieces throughout the game so ready call out for modification that it works really well.</p><p>3E would still be my favorite edition, hands down. I've been playing 3E for approaching a decade. For now the new aspects of 5E combines with the ability to customize that toolkit to my own preferences >> 3E that I've been playing for many years. So it isn't that it is catered to me that appeals, it is that the size of the tent brings so much more to the table and it is both "new" and "very good".</p><p></p><p>5E can't do 4E as well as 4E. If you want 4E, play 4E. 5E can be adapted. Adapt.</p><p>Quit whining and build something awesome. The pieces are right there in front of you, but they are not going to assemble themselves.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BryonD, post: 6858473, member: 957"] You started by saying that you are playing a game due to "life circumstances" and therefore that game doesn't fit your preferences by result of the system itself. Now you are expressing concern over an issue that very much comes down to DM. You are also calling for a "big tent" game while advocating for the smallest tent in D&D's history as your primary preference. There seems to be a common element of using inclusive buzz-words to describe a condition that boils down to you want the game catered to you. If you don't like 5E, don't play 5E. "Life circumstances" is a highly vague condition. If you wife is going to leave you because you won't play in her game, then you have much bigger concerns than how much you enjoy the system of choice. So I'm going to presume that your "life circumstance" is some variation of "I want to game, they only group that will have me plays 5e". Is the net value positive? If yes, play. If no, don't. But if you play, don't try to cut against the grain of the system. You are just banging you head against a wall and then wondering why your head hurts. I find 5E to be far and away the biggest tent of any edition ever. So much so that, IMO, 5E RAW rather sucks. But the bits and pieces throughout the game so ready call out for modification that it works really well. 3E would still be my favorite edition, hands down. I've been playing 3E for approaching a decade. For now the new aspects of 5E combines with the ability to customize that toolkit to my own preferences >> 3E that I've been playing for many years. So it isn't that it is catered to me that appeals, it is that the size of the tent brings so much more to the table and it is both "new" and "very good". 5E can't do 4E as well as 4E. If you want 4E, play 4E. 5E can be adapted. Adapt. Quit whining and build something awesome. The pieces are right there in front of you, but they are not going to assemble themselves. [/QUOTE]
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