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Message: <blockquote data-quote="JonnyP71" data-source="post: 6858531" data-attributes="member: 6788862">Because sometimes, those moments in the game which derive from playing a sub optimal character concept can create the game memories that will last long after everyone has forgotten that time you critted the BBEG for 40 points of damage with your uber optimised Meat Shield with his +lots magic damage-dealer.We spent a full hour of gameplay time trying to coax our Beastmaster Ranger's warpig (any optimiser will tell you the Beastmaster is a crap class) across a rickety bridge - using his favourite onions, attempting a lasso, and I won't go into detail as to what I attempted with a Mage Hand.  But we remember it and we laugh about it 6 months later.A whole quest arc developed from a Genie cursing the Champion to lose all colour from his hair - oh the horror of it! - so we had to find the great hairdresser Vidal Sassoon, as only he had the power to permanently restore it back to normal!From entertaining and imaginative concepts, and characters the players 'care' about, so great memories are made.  And we find the create concept 1st, arrange stats/feats to fit concept, approach leads to us having PCs we are more invested in.</blockquote>