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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ExploderWizard" data-source="post: 6858544" data-attributes="member: 66434">5E has more broad appeal. I will happily play or run 5E. While I would still play in a 3 or 4E game if there is no way I would run one. My point is, with 5E it doesn't. The gap between your optimized character and Joe's beer & pretzels character is noticeable but not wide enough so that Joe feels like he can't contribute. If you can't see how being THAT much more effective could impact someone else's fun then go play in a 3E game using a fighter with only PHB options while everyone else can play whatever they want and get back to me.Yes thats precisely what I'm talking about. Unless something in the game is physically preventing you from doing so, you should be able to attack the noble if you decide to do so. You do not have to ask permission from anyone. That is exactly what player agency is all about. You do know in advance what you can do. 5E did not remove character abilities. What you may NOT know is how effective a given choice is before you try it. Thats simply the interaction of character abilities with the game world which can vary from situation to situation. Assuming you have done something in the past with X chance of success and the next situation isn't meaningfully different in any way then you should be able to achieve similar results. If the situation changes or there is information you do have yet, then an ability might not have the effect or impact you were hoping for. Player agency entitles the player to attempt anything, it does not entitle them to expected outcomes. Players often need to interact with game world to gain information and achieve results. Engaging strictly with mechanics only won't get you very far. You have to base any tactics employed on what you know. Sometimes the best tactic is to find out more information before just trying to kick ass.</blockquote>

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