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<blockquote data-quote="Jester David" data-source="post: 6858576" data-attributes="member: 37579"><p>Unchanged. </p><p>Actually, this has formed a large part of my opinion. I've played a LOT of organized play, for 3.5, Pathfinder, and even 5e. And when one person's character owns every single encounter it is really not fun. It's nice not to struggle and almost die in a module, but I like my character to do cool things as well. </p><p></p><p>In organized play, the social contract is still there and actually the requirement to "play nice" is intensified, as there isn't the leeway friendship provides. You don't know the people, and you aren't friends. The DM is less obligated to play with you and accommodate you. </p><p>If you walk into a game store and engage people in a friendly game of, oh, let's say chess. And you obliterate them mercilessly. Eventually people will stop playing with you because it's not fun for them. If you make running the game not fun for a DM they're move you to another table or just stop showing up to run the game. </p><p></p><p>This is not just because I can't optimize. I'm not great at it, but I can hold my own. My last couple PFS characters were pretty badass, and really out shown the rest of the table (of newbies). So I played inoptimally and tried to assist them. I used my action to aid attacks, moved into flanks, and the like. Because the ONLY way you can win at D&D is if you have fun, and if everyone at the table isn't having a good time, the entire table just lost at D&D.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jester David, post: 6858576, member: 37579"] Unchanged. Actually, this has formed a large part of my opinion. I've played a LOT of organized play, for 3.5, Pathfinder, and even 5e. And when one person's character owns every single encounter it is really not fun. It's nice not to struggle and almost die in a module, but I like my character to do cool things as well. In organized play, the social contract is still there and actually the requirement to "play nice" is intensified, as there isn't the leeway friendship provides. You don't know the people, and you aren't friends. The DM is less obligated to play with you and accommodate you. If you walk into a game store and engage people in a friendly game of, oh, let's say chess. And you obliterate them mercilessly. Eventually people will stop playing with you because it's not fun for them. If you make running the game not fun for a DM they're move you to another table or just stop showing up to run the game. This is not just because I can't optimize. I'm not great at it, but I can hold my own. My last couple PFS characters were pretty badass, and really out shown the rest of the table (of newbies). So I played inoptimally and tried to assist them. I used my action to aid attacks, moved into flanks, and the like. Because the ONLY way you can win at D&D is if you have fun, and if everyone at the table isn't having a good time, the entire table just lost at D&D. [/QUOTE]
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