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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mathilda" data-source="post: 6858662" data-attributes="member: 6836566">First off... you make me laugh...Usually, I am thanked profusely when I "clicked" on the switch because when I do the situation is normally characters are down under 0 in hitpoints, others are on the ropes and a majority of the monsters still in play.When I play in Organized Play without friends, I am content to have everyone else shine at the table and if they are powerful enough to carry me through an adventure.. no problem here.I can honestly say I don't care if someone can do something better than I... in fact, I applaud and relieved by the notion that I will have help if something goes wrong.In regards to your second set of fallacies.... it should be no problem for an optimized character of anything to be inserted into any party.  it is the issue of the DM to give each player their chance to shine DURING PLAY... NOT JUST DURING COMBAT.  So what if the rest of the party are not combat focused, it gives that combat focused more light to shine.  There is no rule that every encounter has to be combat...If the DM is giving each individual player to do their thing... I see no issue.... everyone is having funYour comments are so full of assumptions that are plain and simply wrong.You claim that you have been since the 80's, I don't know if that is true but if you are playing with the same 10 - 12 people since that time, that is NOT a big experience base to draw accurate conclusions from.</blockquote>

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