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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Imaro" data-source="post: 6859223" data-attributes="member: 48965">What I think most people are asking for (and what has so far not been delivered) are concrete examples.  Taking your example above, does a character have those specific powers?  No.  Can he accomplish the same thing with certainty within the confines of 5e (and barring exceptions, such as a monsters ability or environmental effect, which 4e also has)?  Yes.  He has his movement rate... an ally can use the help action to grant advantage... he can make an attack... and use extra attack to attack again.  What is the practical difference (outside of the mechanical differences of the abilities/powers used in each edition) to accomplish this?I also don't see how skill challenges vs. individual task oriented skill checks have anything to do with whether a DM can or can't rule a particular action is possible... he can decide that in either case and in either edition. Finally... 4e has it's own murkiness and need for DM rulings... An example that stands out is... can an object be burned by a fire spell that lists creature as a target.  By RAW, it should even be able to be used on an object...but you'll get a ton of replies to how silly this is if followed to the letter and that the Fire keyword allows it to burn things... but then the question becomes how much, how long, how hot, etc... which all must be ruled by DM fiat.</blockquote>