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Thoughts of a 3E/4E powergamer on starting to play 5E
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<blockquote data-quote="Prism" data-source="post: 6859290" data-attributes="member: 9501"><p>The thing is 4e allows for a level of player control that I doubt very much any DM would say yes to in 5e. </p><p></p><p>For example if the players requested that they pretty much controlled the movement of the monsters, deciding which monsters attacked which party members, ensuring the wizard was safe at the back and that the enemy fighter stayed mostly out of the fight until the party was ready to deal with them, or the opposite, forcing the enemy wizard in melee with the barbarian, as a 5e DM you would almost definitely say no, especially considering there are very few abilities and spells that allow that level of player control. In 4e, a well built party with defender and controller could pretty much guarantee that. The players tend to force the issue with powers and marks that can remove much this kind of decision making from the DM. The players controlled the ebb and flow of combat if they wanted to.</p><p></p><p>This is one of the reasons I moved away from DMing 4e into 5e. As a DM I wanted some control of combat back without having to constantly build very specific encounters or deny the players use of their powers for arbitrary reasons</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Prism, post: 6859290, member: 9501"] The thing is 4e allows for a level of player control that I doubt very much any DM would say yes to in 5e. For example if the players requested that they pretty much controlled the movement of the monsters, deciding which monsters attacked which party members, ensuring the wizard was safe at the back and that the enemy fighter stayed mostly out of the fight until the party was ready to deal with them, or the opposite, forcing the enemy wizard in melee with the barbarian, as a 5e DM you would almost definitely say no, especially considering there are very few abilities and spells that allow that level of player control. In 4e, a well built party with defender and controller could pretty much guarantee that. The players tend to force the issue with powers and marks that can remove much this kind of decision making from the DM. The players controlled the ebb and flow of combat if they wanted to. This is one of the reasons I moved away from DMing 4e into 5e. As a DM I wanted some control of combat back without having to constantly build very specific encounters or deny the players use of their powers for arbitrary reasons [/QUOTE]
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