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<blockquote data-quote="Sacrosanct" data-source="post: 6860234" data-attributes="member: 15700">This doesn't make any sense.&nbsp; For one, Tunnels and Trolls was out in 1975, so there was competition.&nbsp; And Traveller was in 1977.&nbsp; And what do you mean by &quot;calmed down&quot;?&nbsp; Or &quot;temporary fad&quot;?&nbsp; A fad is something super popular for about a year and that's it, like beanie babies or Zubaz.&nbsp; D&amp;D was popular&nbsp; year after yearFor the record, you can't look at the popularity of a game by looking at raw # of players currently playing as the end all/be all metric (and even if you were, then Mentzer's basic is still the best selling version of D&amp;D ever).&nbsp; For one, there are a more people gaming in general in 2000 than in 1980, and things like the internet were a HUGE factor in helping players.&nbsp; IMO, a better indicator is growth and popularity among pop culture in general.&nbsp; Nothing matches the growth of the late 70s/early 80s D&amp;D. It also appeared in blockbuster movies (ET, Cloak &amp; Dagger), and even had it's own Saturday morning cartoon.&nbsp; Ads were everywhere: on TV, in comic books, etc.&nbsp; The height of D&amp;D was definitely the early 80s.&nbsp; In the 3.x era, you had huge swaths of gamers not even play it, but were playing Werewolf or Vampire instead.&nbsp; As mentioned, there were plenty of other RPGs in the 80s to compete with AD&amp;D, but still most everyone played it, whereas in the 90s and 2000s, D&amp;D didn't hold as much of a market share.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Sacrosanct, post: 6860234, member: 15700"] This doesn't make any sense. For one, Tunnels and Trolls was out in 1975, so there was competition. And Traveller was in 1977. And what do you mean by "calmed down"? Or "temporary fad"? A fad is something super popular for about a year and that's it, like beanie babies or Zubaz. D&D was popular year after year For the record, you can't look at the popularity of a game by looking at raw # of players currently playing as the end all/be all metric (and even if you were, then Mentzer's basic is still the best selling version of D&D ever). For one, there are a more people gaming in general in 2000 than in 1980, and things like the internet were a HUGE factor in helping players. IMO, a better indicator is growth and popularity among pop culture in general. Nothing matches the growth of the late 70s/early 80s D&D. It also appeared in blockbuster movies (ET, Cloak & Dagger), and even had it's own Saturday morning cartoon. Ads were everywhere: on TV, in comic books, etc. The height of D&D was definitely the early 80s. In the 3.x era, you had huge swaths of gamers not even play it, but were playing Werewolf or Vampire instead. As mentioned, there were plenty of other RPGs in the 80s to compete with AD&D, but still most everyone played it, whereas in the 90s and 2000s, D&D didn't hold as much of a market share. [/QUOTE]

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