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<blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 6860894" data-attributes="member: 6790260"><p>When people speak of desiring complexity, they're usually talking about <em>depth.</em> Go is one of the simplest games in existence--I think it has at most four rules. But it's also one of the <em>deepest</em> strategy games humans have ever made. Much deeper than chess, for instance, which is far more complex rules-wise. By comparison, all TTRPGs ever made, even loosey-goosey ones like Fate, are fantastically more complex AND less deep.</p><p></p><p>People who look enviously at the detailed options provided by, say, the Wizard? They want depth. They don't believe that magic should be the only way in which a class provides depth. And for them? More "complexity," up to a point, absolutely IS more fun--and a lack of complexity absolutely IS a lack of fun. People who don't want depth (and whatever complexity comes with it) and like martial flavor already have what they want. People who want depth (and the complexity that comes with it) and like magical flavor have an <em>embarrassment of riches</em>. But the other two groups on this particular Punnett square have been criminally under-served, even in 5e.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="EzekielRaiden, post: 6860894, member: 6790260"] When people speak of desiring complexity, they're usually talking about [I]depth.[/I] Go is one of the simplest games in existence--I think it has at most four rules. But it's also one of the [I]deepest[/I] strategy games humans have ever made. Much deeper than chess, for instance, which is far more complex rules-wise. By comparison, all TTRPGs ever made, even loosey-goosey ones like Fate, are fantastically more complex AND less deep. People who look enviously at the detailed options provided by, say, the Wizard? They want depth. They don't believe that magic should be the only way in which a class provides depth. And for them? More "complexity," up to a point, absolutely IS more fun--and a lack of complexity absolutely IS a lack of fun. People who don't want depth (and whatever complexity comes with it) and like martial flavor already have what they want. People who want depth (and the complexity that comes with it) and like magical flavor have an [I]embarrassment of riches[/I]. But the other two groups on this particular Punnett square have been criminally under-served, even in 5e. [/QUOTE]
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