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<blockquote data-quote="BryonD" data-source="post: 6864171" data-attributes="member: 957">I'd say this point strongly exposes the issue of preconceptions on the conversation.Again, system vs. DM judgement is huge.But the preconception of how much control a DM should have in a TTRPG which appeals to the widest mass of players (&quot;the big tent&quot;) is critically important.The OP is effectively saying &quot;if the core system doesn't cater to me it is flawed&quot;.&nbsp; But &quot;cater to me&quot; is explained in ways which very clearly call out the way a clear strong section of the market prefer.&nbsp; If you don't read that OP with the preconception that its claim is true, it is very easy to see it as starting off hostile, at very least as &quot;relatively hostile&quot; as the referenced responses.Again, not &quot;making this about 4E&quot; but as a very applicable analogy, I was never shy about being critical of 4E for being a small tent system.&nbsp; But I never claimed that my personal positions were the definition of what would appeal to the large tent.&nbsp; There were even multiple occasions when I flat out stated the opposite in that a game I loathed *could* be a big tent and that would be a good thing.&nbsp; (To be clear, I don't dispute that I claimed my tastes were more aligned with the popular demand in some specifics)The OP doesn't take this approach at all.&nbsp; It dives right in with expecting the game to come to him personally.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="BryonD, post: 6864171, member: 957"] I'd say this point strongly exposes the issue of preconceptions on the conversation. Again, system vs. DM judgement is huge. But the preconception of how much control a DM should have in a TTRPG which appeals to the widest mass of players ("the big tent") is critically important. The OP is effectively saying "if the core system doesn't cater to me it is flawed". But "cater to me" is explained in ways which very clearly call out the way a clear strong section of the market prefer. If you don't read that OP with the preconception that its claim is true, it is very easy to see it as starting off hostile, at very least as "relatively hostile" as the referenced responses. Again, not "making this about 4E" but as a very applicable analogy, I was never shy about being critical of 4E for being a small tent system. But I never claimed that my personal positions were the definition of what would appeal to the large tent. There were even multiple occasions when I flat out stated the opposite in that a game I loathed *could* be a big tent and that would be a good thing. (To be clear, I don't dispute that I claimed my tastes were more aligned with the popular demand in some specifics) The OP doesn't take this approach at all. It dives right in with expecting the game to come to him personally. [/QUOTE]

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