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<blockquote data-quote="thecasualoblivion" data-source="post: 6864260" data-attributes="member: 59096"><p>It might have had something to do with the ages involved. Most of the table was still in high school and the problem player was older. He was older than me at the time, 25-27 I believe. He was related to one of the wallflowers and had DMed for most of the table in the past, and had introduced many of them to the hobby. I was the second oldest, I think I hadn't turned 21 yet, but I was out of school and had a job. I didn't start buying alcohol for those guys until later, so I think I was still 20. Everyone else was in the 16-18 range, except the owner/DM who was well into his 30s. </p><p></p><p>The game up until he joined was a fairly generic beer and pretzels sort of game. We mostly just fought stuff, screwed up, got chased out of towns for being jerks, and occasionally completed quests(completion was uncommon). Him introducing crazy plans and those schemes failing wasn't that big of a change for us, to be honest, other than putting us in more danger. </p><p></p><p>The wallflowers had enough pretty early on, they just weren't the sort who would do anything about it. One of them, the one who was his nephew or cousin in fact, used to tell me both in and out of game everything he was planning and keeping secret, supposedly in confidence. He never took a public stand or did anything beyond that. His two minions really didn't abandon him until the second campaign went down in flames. We basically had a party meeting, in character, with everybody present except him and decided his character was going to get us killed and we were going to slit his throat and leave him in the woods. People were really sick of it that point and we decided doing it in game would send the right message. This was after the DM, at the table, basically flat out said he wasn't going to stop me if my character killed him where he stood(In the previous game the DM said he would stop me if I tried that). Things had gotten that bad. We never really got the chance as the game just sort of evaporated, mostly because the DM was just burned out at that point.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="thecasualoblivion, post: 6864260, member: 59096"] It might have had something to do with the ages involved. Most of the table was still in high school and the problem player was older. He was older than me at the time, 25-27 I believe. He was related to one of the wallflowers and had DMed for most of the table in the past, and had introduced many of them to the hobby. I was the second oldest, I think I hadn't turned 21 yet, but I was out of school and had a job. I didn't start buying alcohol for those guys until later, so I think I was still 20. Everyone else was in the 16-18 range, except the owner/DM who was well into his 30s. The game up until he joined was a fairly generic beer and pretzels sort of game. We mostly just fought stuff, screwed up, got chased out of towns for being jerks, and occasionally completed quests(completion was uncommon). Him introducing crazy plans and those schemes failing wasn't that big of a change for us, to be honest, other than putting us in more danger. The wallflowers had enough pretty early on, they just weren't the sort who would do anything about it. One of them, the one who was his nephew or cousin in fact, used to tell me both in and out of game everything he was planning and keeping secret, supposedly in confidence. He never took a public stand or did anything beyond that. His two minions really didn't abandon him until the second campaign went down in flames. We basically had a party meeting, in character, with everybody present except him and decided his character was going to get us killed and we were going to slit his throat and leave him in the woods. People were really sick of it that point and we decided doing it in game would send the right message. This was after the DM, at the table, basically flat out said he wasn't going to stop me if my character killed him where he stood(In the previous game the DM said he would stop me if I tried that). Things had gotten that bad. We never really got the chance as the game just sort of evaporated, mostly because the DM was just burned out at that point. [/QUOTE]
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