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<blockquote data-quote="MoonSong" data-source="post: 6876483" data-attributes="member: 6689464"><p>I don't know who decided to put me in front of a classroom to teach logic -arts major- but I would have failed you already <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think oblivion has all but told us that not playing in this table is not an option.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Wow, I thought you were younger, obviously older than me, but not that much. Had I known you were old enough to be my father I would have had a better response to you. Sorry, bunny bunny moonbunny in flames sorry.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Speaking is cathartic. I don't really think that solutions are that easy to come by. From my own experience a lot of proposed solutions tend to only wok when you are DMing and not playing, or when you have a considerable sway over your DM. But it takes way less persuasion to make other editions work for certain styles, sometimes even none, as they are out of the box. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I feel this in itself is open to debate. Not having a solid base as well a base hurts certain ways to play. It is easier to do certain things -like thecasualoblivion optimizing for combat, or my own going for rp heavy special snowflakes- when you know the clear limits and the clear "rights", I feel less confident expressing myself into a character the less I have to work with, not for lack of creativity, but because that would be extremely unfair and I would hog the spotlight for the wrong reasons -not to mention that I would feel like an outsider that is demanding special treatment from the table-. DM empowerment also tends to facilitate "Emperor DMs" that are very closed to input from players, I don't know but some of the most open minded and facilitating DMs I've played with came from the rules-heavy 3rd and 4th editions (Ok also from 2e), but I have found way too many dictatorial DMs with 5th.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MoonSong, post: 6876483, member: 6689464"] I don't know who decided to put me in front of a classroom to teach logic -arts major- but I would have failed you already :D I think oblivion has all but told us that not playing in this table is not an option. Wow, I thought you were younger, obviously older than me, but not that much. Had I known you were old enough to be my father I would have had a better response to you. Sorry, bunny bunny moonbunny in flames sorry. Speaking is cathartic. I don't really think that solutions are that easy to come by. From my own experience a lot of proposed solutions tend to only wok when you are DMing and not playing, or when you have a considerable sway over your DM. But it takes way less persuasion to make other editions work for certain styles, sometimes even none, as they are out of the box. I feel this in itself is open to debate. Not having a solid base as well a base hurts certain ways to play. It is easier to do certain things -like thecasualoblivion optimizing for combat, or my own going for rp heavy special snowflakes- when you know the clear limits and the clear "rights", I feel less confident expressing myself into a character the less I have to work with, not for lack of creativity, but because that would be extremely unfair and I would hog the spotlight for the wrong reasons -not to mention that I would feel like an outsider that is demanding special treatment from the table-. DM empowerment also tends to facilitate "Emperor DMs" that are very closed to input from players, I don't know but some of the most open minded and facilitating DMs I've played with came from the rules-heavy 3rd and 4th editions (Ok also from 2e), but I have found way too many dictatorial DMs with 5th. [/QUOTE]
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