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Message: <blockquote data-quote="thecasualoblivion" data-source="post: 6878945" data-attributes="member: 59096">There really isn't. I'd have to check what 3E or 3.5E looked like 1.5 years in, but for 4E you would have PHB 2, FRPG, EPG, Martial Power, Arcane Power, Divine Power, Primal Power, and 18 issues of Dragon. Beyond the amount of material, there is the amount of customization choices a single PC gets. Compared to 4E there is no comparison, and I'd argue that a 5E PC is well below a 3E PC in this regard as well. This is particularly true if you don't factor in 3E-style Multiclassing, which I wasn't a fan of in either 3E or 5E. As for 3rd party material, all the bad stuff released during the 3E era has made be wary to trust such material ever again.Two issues here:1. It might be true that this becomes less of a problem at higher levels I haven't experienced yet. I'm not enjoying how the randomness is over the first five levels(I have played previously at 5), and even if it gets better later the low levels being a problem is still a problem.2. From what you describe and what others have said, the things that mitigate the randomness fall under one of my other complaints, the DM Empowerment one. Advantage is generally DM fiat, and as a player I am not wired towards "playing the DM", being more of a "play the system" player. Maybe in isolation this is true. I don't really compare combat in 5E to 3E/4E, since those two are much heavier and slower systems. But when I play or think about 5E, I can't help but compare it to my experience with 2E or for that matter 13th Age, and to me it loses those comparisons. The other piece is that there really isn't much I particularly like about 5E. I was able to put up with a lot of problems and work my butt off trying to mold 3E into something better than it was because there was a lot in 3E I really liked and that didn't exist elsewhere. There isn't the same level of positives in 5E for me, and what there is in 5E I like I can find in other systems I overall like a whole lot more.</blockquote>

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