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Message: <blockquote data-quote="dave2008" data-source="post: 6879105" data-attributes="member: 83242">100% agreeThat was basically how I played, but I would say it worked less then what I am finding in 5e.  There are some ways to abuse/use the action economy in 4e that I just gave up and assumed the players knew what they were doing.  The options lead to a lot of broken (IMO) options/combinations/synergies.  In order to keep up with the players I had to heavily modify encounters and monsters.  I am having the same problem in 5e, but to a lesser degree.  I mean I would be interested in how you felt after being in a 5e campaign the went from 1-15 or 20 levels.  The first three AP were 1-15 btw.Check out this link for some more ideas:  <a href="http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?477392-A-(mostly)-Exhaustive-List-of-Advantage-and-Disadvantage" target="_blank">http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?477392-A-(mostly)-Exhaustive-List-of-Advantage-and-Disadvantage</a>If you want to maximize for advantage you can pretty much have it up all the time.  But like I said, you don't need advantage to kick butt in 5e, mostly because of BA.I think it comes down to a matter of taste like you said.  My PCs seem to have plenty of interesting things to do, at least relative to the 4 yrs we played 4e.  In 4e we had a lot more spamming of at-will powers than we are seeing in 5e.  Got it.  Do you have the choice of another group that would play more your style? No 5e is not closer to what I want than 4e, I would say they are about equally apart from what I want.  I like 4e and 5e equally well from a DM perspective and I would happily still DM 4e (or my house ruled version of it).  However, I find 5e much easier for me to modify as a DM with less consequences at the table than in 4e.  I think this is mostly because of all the options, everything is core approach in 4e always seemed to result in unintended consequences when you made a change.</blockquote>

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