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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 6879914" data-attributes="member: 996">That the bit that follows is an example of the principle just outlined.Right here: You were describing interesting, challenging, dynamic combats, and the mechanics that made them possible as a 'long drawn out slog.'&nbsp; It's one thing to say that you don't enjoy having larger/longer combats with more options for everyone at the table, it's another to imply that no one could.&nbsp; No.&nbsp; My thing is D&amp;D.&nbsp; And I don't like people misrepresenting it.&nbsp; Not thecasualoblivion misrepresenting 5e, not you misrepresenting 4e.&nbsp; You're never going to defend 5e in the eyes of a 3e/4e fan by trashing 4e, especially by doing so in ways that he'll clearly see as false.&nbsp; 5e is for fans of all prior editions.&nbsp; To defend 5e, point out how it actually /can/ be used to deliver the play experience the critic's play style is looking for.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 6879914, member: 996"] That the bit that follows is an example of the principle just outlined. Right here: You were describing interesting, challenging, dynamic combats, and the mechanics that made them possible as a 'long drawn out slog.' It's one thing to say that you don't enjoy having larger/longer combats with more options for everyone at the table, it's another to imply that no one could. No. My thing is D&D. And I don't like people misrepresenting it. Not thecasualoblivion misrepresenting 5e, not you misrepresenting 4e. You're never going to defend 5e in the eyes of a 3e/4e fan by trashing 4e, especially by doing so in ways that he'll clearly see as false. 5e is for fans of all prior editions. To defend 5e, point out how it actually /can/ be used to deliver the play experience the critic's play style is looking for. [/QUOTE]

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