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<blockquote data-quote="Stoutstien" data-source="post: 8648187" data-attributes="member: 7020569">Best is going to depend on your tables style of game but most PCs have plenty of room for non damage stuff. What it actually sounds like is you want a PC who excels at gathering and understanding information. Ability (skills) can help here but honestly a fine comb through the spells and class abilities will get you further.Take the knowledge domain cleric for example. Gets overlooked because it doesn't have much in the &quot;mrw damage &quot; department. In reality once you combine it with the usual information gathering stuff clerics get it can be a beast.-More languages(if that's important for your table)-Expertise-expanded spell list full of stuff that equals just winning the info war with counters to the same effects-Floating Prof in any tool or skill-flat out mind reading with auto landing suggestion(for free??)- more visions than a phone in psychic on the TV in a a Florida retirement community.Take a 3 lv dip in eloquene bard and hammer down with your CD I anyone that knows stuff you need. Alternatively if you do want some combat stuff 3 lvs of fey wander gives you a big boost to all Cha checks, some more Prof in skills, and a mini damage boost on top of the usual ranger goodies at low lvs. Including more expertise.That's all before you even get to race options and feats.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Stoutstien, post: 8648187, member: 7020569"] Best is going to depend on your tables style of game but most PCs have plenty of room for non damage stuff. What it actually sounds like is you want a PC who excels at gathering and understanding information. Ability (skills) can help here but honestly a fine comb through the spells and class abilities will get you further. Take the knowledge domain cleric for example. Gets overlooked because it doesn't have much in the "mrw damage " department. In reality once you combine it with the usual information gathering stuff clerics get it can be a beast. -More languages(if that's important for your table) -Expertise -expanded spell list full of stuff that equals just winning the info war with counters to the same effects -Floating Prof in any tool or skill -flat out mind reading with auto landing suggestion(for free??) - more visions than a phone in psychic on the TV in a a Florida retirement community. Take a 3 lv dip in eloquene bard and hammer down with your CD I anyone that knows stuff you need. Alternatively if you do want some combat stuff 3 lvs of fey wander gives you a big boost to all Cha checks, some more Prof in skills, and a mini damage boost on top of the usual ranger goodies at low lvs. Including more expertise. That's all before you even get to race options and feats. [/QUOTE]

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