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<blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 9268148" data-attributes="member: 7030563">There is 100% overlap with all of the Wizard Illusion and Enchantment spells of 1st level.Here are the 1st level Wizard class Illusions and Enchantments:Color SprayCharm PersonDisguise SelfIllusory ScriptSilvery BarbsSleepSilent ImageTasha's Hideous LaughterAs an Arcane Trickster I need to take two of these spells at 3rd level and another one at 4th level.&nbsp; All of these spells are on the Bard spell list.There are some enchantments on the Bard list that are not on the Wizard list (Dissonant Whispers and Heroism), but any spell I could take in place of Silvery Barbs, I can get as a Bard.Silvery Barbs is from the Enchantment school, so it counts as one of the 2 spells from the Enchantment school.&nbsp; I can get Silvery Barbs (from the Wizard Enchantment list) and then also get one of the other two spells - Shield or Absorb Elements.At 3rd level Rogue for example I get 3 spells.&nbsp; I can take the following spells:Disguise Self (Illusion)Silvery Barbs (Enchantment)Absorb Elements (free-choice Abjuration)I am not picking it as a free choice spells.&nbsp; I am picking it as one of my Enchantment/Illusion spells, all of which are on the Bard list.&nbsp;&nbsp; I am going to have Silvery Barbs in addition to either Shield or Absorb Elements.To humor me - what Enchantment or Illusion spell would you pick instead of Silvery Barbs?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ECMO3, post: 9268148, member: 7030563"] There is 100% overlap with all of the Wizard Illusion and Enchantment spells of 1st level. Here are the 1st level Wizard class Illusions and Enchantments: Color Spray Charm Person Disguise Self Illusory Script Silvery Barbs Sleep Silent Image Tasha's Hideous Laughter As an Arcane Trickster I need to take two of these spells at 3rd level and another one at 4th level. All of these spells are on the Bard spell list. There are some enchantments on the Bard list that are not on the Wizard list (Dissonant Whispers and Heroism), but any spell I could take in place of Silvery Barbs, I can get as a Bard. Silvery Barbs is from the Enchantment school, so it counts as one of the 2 spells from the Enchantment school. I can get Silvery Barbs (from the Wizard Enchantment list) and then also get one of the other two spells - Shield or Absorb Elements. At 3rd level Rogue for example I get 3 spells. I can take the following spells: Disguise Self (Illusion) Silvery Barbs (Enchantment) Absorb Elements (free-choice Abjuration) I am not picking it as a free choice spells. I am picking it as one of my Enchantment/Illusion spells, all of which are on the Bard list. I am going to have Silvery Barbs in addition to either Shield or Absorb Elements. To humor me - what [U][B]Enchantment or Illusion [/B][/U]spell would you pick instead of Silvery Barbs? [/QUOTE]

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