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<blockquote data-quote="DrunkonDuty" data-source="post: 8411818" data-attributes="member: 54364">I'm drawing all my inferences about AW from this thread. Because I haven't read AW I'll stay neutral on the edginess or not of its prose style. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> Ummm... I can only assume this means that one* should put forward plot points based on what has come before in previous scenes/acts/episodes/story arcs. As opposed to simply sticking to some pre-planned series of events. Now basing next events on previous events is great and I'm all for that. But this is the intermediate level of RPGs. *whoever puts forward the plot ideas, which I gather can be players &amp; GMsWell... this really does sound like basic RPG. Whether its dungeon crawling or seducing your way thru a Vampire LARP. Yeah, in a dungeon crawl the dramatic needs are &quot;moar monsters/loot/XP&quot; rather than the high melodrama of Vampire but who's to say one is better than the other?The GM asking &quot;what do you do?&quot; and then resolving the proposed situation with game mechanics is, again, basic RPG. As is deciding consequences for the failure/success of those actions.Sounds to me like specific game mechanics intended to give a particular feel to the game. Seriously - what, apart from &quot;genre feel,&quot; is the difference between a player in a DnD game saying &quot;my bard is gonna seduce that barman with the great buns&quot; or &quot;my hard holder is gonna put a soft sex move on that barman with the great buns?&quot;&nbsp; This is good GMing advice. It can be applied to any game. And I think it's great that AW (and other games) put all this advice front and centre. But it's still there in (almost?) all other RPGs. It may not be said explicitly, turning up the heat may take different forms in different games, but it's there.I'll say again - I'm glad that AW and other games put this sort of advice front and centre, AND have mechanics to back it up. I'm firmly of the belief that having rules for X in a gamebook leads to more X in the actual play. And when I like the X, as I like all the things mentioned above, then viva la apocalypse.Okay, look, I said I was gonna stay neutral on the cringiness of the writing of AW. But a &quot;soft sex move?&quot; That's just pushing rope.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DrunkonDuty, post: 8411818, member: 54364"] I'm drawing all my inferences about AW from this thread. Because I haven't read AW I'll stay neutral on the edginess or not of its prose style. ;) Ummm... I can only assume this means that one* should put forward plot points based on what has come before in previous scenes/acts/episodes/story arcs. As opposed to simply sticking to some pre-planned series of events. Now basing next events on previous events is great and I'm all for that. But this is the intermediate level of RPGs. *whoever puts forward the plot ideas, which I gather can be players & GMs Well... this really does sound like basic RPG. Whether its dungeon crawling or seducing your way thru a Vampire LARP. Yeah, in a dungeon crawl the dramatic needs are "moar monsters/loot/XP" rather than the high melodrama of Vampire but who's to say one is better than the other? The GM asking "what do you do?" and then resolving the proposed situation with game mechanics is, again, basic RPG. As is deciding consequences for the failure/success of those actions. Sounds to me like specific game mechanics intended to give a particular feel to the game. Seriously - what, apart from "genre feel," is the difference between a player in a DnD game saying "my bard is gonna seduce that barman with the great buns" or "my hard holder is gonna put a soft sex move on that barman with the great buns?" This is good GMing advice. It can be applied to any game. And I think it's great that AW (and other games) put all this advice front and centre. But it's still there in (almost?) all other RPGs. It may not be said explicitly, turning up the heat may take different forms in different games, but it's there. I'll say again - I'm glad that AW and other games put this sort of advice front and centre, AND have mechanics to back it up. I'm firmly of the belief that having rules for X in a gamebook leads to more X in the actual play. And when I like the X, as I like all the things mentioned above, then viva la apocalypse. Okay, look, I said I was gonna stay neutral on the cringiness of the writing of AW. But a "soft sex move?" That's just pushing rope. [/QUOTE]

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